Harry,
Your comments reflect a different perspective on the activity, or at least on the priorities. It seems that you see the effort as a general replacement for SNMP, perhaps defining some replacement to the MIBs. What I see as the most pressing need is to provide for remote access to existing data bases, be they MIBs or the data current accessed by web pages, or some internal parameters.
I also do not see this in terms of a management station canvassing to see what device supports what. In general, I do not think that that sort of fishing would be allowed in many enterprises. Rather, I see the device being registered with the remote server to provide reposts according to some pre-arraigned agreement on what parameters would be monitored. Indeed, the idea was to define the transport and a general formal by which elements could be queried or specified. Although items such as you mention (size of media in trays) would not be excluded, it does not seem the sort of thing that would be of interest to a remote server. I will post the list of things brainstormed at the BOF.
I intended the proposed Charter to be clear that this activity was to use the path intended for web browsing to allow authorized but non-enterprise agencies to monitor (for usage information, for example) and perhaps do specific maintenance (for updates or upgrades, for example) to on-enterprise site equipment. it was not the intent that this be a general SNMP replacement. Perhaps you may want to look at the charter again before we send it out for final approval. ( I have attached the draft as modified at Maui). By the way, the title is Charter Proposal for <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />PWG WEB-Based Monitoring and Management, hence WBMM.
Bill Wagner
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From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:46 PM
To: wbmm@pwg.org
Subject: WBMM> Management Commands
SNMP has GET, SET, GETBULK etc. What types of commands would we like to see in WBMM (what does WBMM stand for, anyway!?... perhaps separate discussion... aren't we forgetting the U word... "Universal Deice and Services Management")
Back to the topic...
I'm thinking we will want to improve on the interfaces and commands based on what we have learned over the years implementing the Printer MIB. Please share your thoughts. Here are some of mine. We need...
1. A way to query what attributes are settable and which are not (we learned, with SNMP, that "MaxAccess" isn't always that helpful).
2. A way to query attribute (elements?) either singularly (tell me size of media in "main" tray), in bulk (give me the "input group"), or filtered (tell me the name of each tray; tell me all trays which are loaded with transparency).
3. If we end up with mandatory and optional commands or interfaces, a way to query which are supported in a particular implementation (describe via WSIL/WSDL?).
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Harry Lewis
IBM Printing Systems
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