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Re: WBMM> Scope and Starting Point Conference call

From: ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com
Date: Wed Feb 26 2003 - 15:47:15 EST

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    Bill,

    I think your document is a good start. The scenarios are more or less
    described at the right level for this discussion. I am confused, however,
    about the difference between Scenarios 1 and 2. Aren't they both part of
    the same story?

    The firewall issue is, of course, critical. Whatever we do has to be
    acceptable to the majority of IT groups, and we should test that. Maybe we
    should each ask our local IT folks whether they would allow a printer that
    automatically talks to an external server, and whether their answer depends
    on the selection of port #, type of data traffic, etc. If we find major
    resistance to the idea, then we should stop. This is the issue that drives
    the HTTP questions, and I can't imagine any non-HTTP scheme that would be
    acceptable.

    With regard to SNMP compatibility, my sense is you have picked up on the
    most useful scenarios for the the Printer MIB. I think WBMM should align
    with Printer MIB wherever it makes sense, but I would not start with a
    fundamental requirement that everything Printer MIB can do can also be done
    by WBMM. We may end up re-implementing some pretty rarely used functions,
    and we can always add them in later.

    I'm not sure I follow the discussion of semantics, but we do want a scheme
    that provides interoperability. That means we have to describe the actual
    encoding of each operation. So, I think that does mean we do need to nail
    the basic semantics. It seems reasonable to do this using SM, although
    this is not a fundamental requirement if some other approach solves the
    problem.

    Control over allowed operations will be important. I can imagine an IT
    department that allows alerts but not file transfers, and certainly not the
    more operational actions like going on or offline, if we decide to include
    them. We should treat this as a primary requirement, with questions of
    granularity, grouping, etc. to come later.

    See you (?) at the teleconference...

      Elliott

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    Elliott Bradshaw
    Director, Software Engineering
    Oak Technology Imaging Group
    781 638-7534

                                                                                                   
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    Greetings:

    I have received several messages indicating that 4 March 4-5 PM EST (1-2
    PST) would be a good time for a conference call. There were also some
    suggestions that we establish a list of issues and try to get as many
    issues a possible resolved before the conference call. There has been some
    discussion of issues in the message I sent on Friday, and I solicit more
    comments. I will come up with a preliminary list of issues with discussion
    and an agenda later this week, and an updated agenda next Monday. Please
    forward your concerns and issues to the list or to me for inclusion.

    This is a simple telephone conference call. Parameters are:

        Time: 4:00 PM 4 March 2003

        Call-in US: 1-877-628-1350

        Call-in International: 1-712-421-1160

        Participant Identification number: 415259

    Best regards,

    Bill Wagner/NetSilicon, a Digi International Company



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