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WBMM> Minutes from March 4 conf call

From: Harry Lewis (harryl@us.ibm.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2003 - 17:28:06 EST

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    I'm probably the worst "minute" taker but here is what I caught from the
    conference call. Thanks to all the participants for your interest in
    helping work out the initial direction, goals, requirements etc.

    Who was there?
    Harry Lewis
    Cathy Markle
    Ira McDonald
    Gail Songer
    Bob Taylor
    Ted Tronson
    Bill Wagner

    Agenda
     1. WBMM Objective
     2. Necessity of new management Model to replace MIBS
     3. Management Interface Client/Monitor Server Architecture using HTTP
    over port 80
     4. Need for alignment with other similar or related activities.

    WBMM Objective
    Question - Extra vs Intra net operation?

    Agreement - Yes, both are valid goals. Prefer not to have distinct
    protocols, operations etc. for outside vs inside the firewall

    Non-MIB information Model
    Question - Why (Why not) create new MIBs?

    "For" MIB - Strong datatyping, legacy, familiarity

    "Against" MIB - PSI experience handling datatyping (just don't redefine
    NMTOKEN, INTEGER etc.), Want to manage the enterprise (SNMP, NPAP, CIM
    etc.), New and different things to manage (ex. services).

    Agreement - Will need to map Printer MIB (Fin MIB etc) to whatever model
    WBMM ends up with, Separate protocol and operational binding from data
    model,

    Open - Still not closed on this topic

    HTTP over port 80
    Question - IANA port for WBMM

    Agreement - yes... but consider other bindings (SMTP etc) also

    Alignment
    Question - What activities to align with

    Agreement - look at RFCs (Ira's note), Look at IPP requirements for
    administrative operations, Look at CIM (who are migrating to SOAP/WSDL)

    Other Discussion
    Firewalls
    Question - How does (outside) management application initiate a management
    session (ex. e-mail SOAP message requesting device to contact manager).

    WBMM process
    Sequence of activities
    Question - Should we first concentrate on mapping the Printer MIB to XML
    (directly) as opposed to starting to define a new model?
    Agreement - We should break down our tasks prior to sequencing them.

    NEXT MEETING
    March 18 4pm-5pm EST.
     

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    Harry Lewis
    IBM Printing Systems
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