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RE: WIMS> Black vs Mono

From: Harry Lewis (harryl@us.ibm.com)
Date: Mon Apr 25 2005 - 12:33:15 EDT

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    The reasoning for using the term Black (vs Monochrome) sure seems
    identical in either case (Images or Impressions)... just that Images are
    scanned and Impressions are "deposited". If we have used both terms in
    past, normative definitions, I guess we'll have to live with them. If not,
    we should think seriously about converging on "Black" and making sure we
    embellish any explanations where needed.
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    Harry Lewis
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    "William A Wagner" <wamwagner@comcast.net>
    04/25/2005 10:12 AM

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    RE: WIMS> Black vs Mono

    Harry,
     
    I agree with your comments, and would argue that ?Black? impressions is
    preferable to ?Monochrome? impressions. However, Ron did not refer to
    impressions but rather to images. So this is not a question about what is
    actually deposited on media, but what is defined in a job. If no color is
    defined, then the image may be considered monochrome. A job where a cyan
    image is defined would be treated as full color, even if it were the only
    color. If this is Ron?s reasoning, I think it makes sense. The question
    then is if the use of ?black? with impressions and ?monochrome? with
    images adds to understanding or to confusion.
     
    Bill Wagner
     
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    Subject: WIMS> Black vs Mono
     

    As background... we discussed Black vs Mono at the Tokyo f2f. There is an
    intuitive question of whether we are really trying to count BLACK (only)
    pages vs Full Color or Spot Color pages or whether we are using Black as a
    synonym for Monochrome vs Full Color. The result would be nearly the same
    except that with the later one could ask how to count a completely Cyan
    (unlikely) page, for example. In Tokyo we concluded that, indeed, we are
    counting BLACK (only) pages. Aside from being inherently monochrome, Black
    has a unique role in printing as many printers have various contone
    components (of which Black is one) and spot colors but Black (only)
    impressions may be accomplished without engaging the contone features or
    pathway in some cases. Also, Monochrome and Black really ARE synonymous,
    Black being so much so the majority of monochrome that other cases (Cyan
    only, Magenta only) become pathological.

    I know another thread ensued abut where and what documents already carry
    these definitions but I wanted to share this "common sense" dialog which
    occurred in Tokyo at the Last Call review also, prior to the next WIMS
    teleconference.
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    Harry Lewis
    IBM STSM
    Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
    http://www.pwg.org
    IBM Printing Systems
    http://www.ibm.com/printers
    303-924-5337
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