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RE: WIMS> CIM: August 18, 2005 minutes posted

From: Richard_Landau@Dell.com
Date: Mon Aug 22 2005 - 15:27:28 EDT

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    Craig,
     
    Good minutes, thanks. And I agree with all of them except the statement
    that "xxx-supported attributes (policy administrator may restrict
    features available to users) should be writable." I agree that Default,
    Current, Max, and Available are reasonable writable properties for setup
    and policy control, but I think that "Supported" is *generally* a
    statement of the physical (or software) capabilities of the device, as
    specified by the manufacturer, rather than policy, as set by the local
    manager.
     
    For instance, the CIM_Printer.PaperSizesSupported property contains a
    list of physical sizes that can pass thru the printer. I think that
    list comes from the manufacturer and is not writable. Similarly for
    LanguagesSupported, CharSetsSupported, NaturalLanguagesSupported, etc.
    On the other side, I think that MaxSizeSupported (in Kbytes, remember)
    seems to be a sensible policy control. Are there cases in the gray
    area?
     
    Hate to say it, but I think we will have to review these one by one,
    both the ones already in CIM_Printer and the ones that we will probably
    add from Printer MIB and IPP. I just don't know enough about IPP to
    understand the distinctions in the specs.
     
    In any case, I think the blanket statement that xxx-supported should be
    writable goes a little too far. I might have agreed with it during the
    phone call. If so, I apologize for being misleading.
     
    rick

     
    ________________________________

    From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
    McDonald, Ira
    Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 17:05
    To: Whittle, Craig; 'wims@pwg.org'
    Subject: RE: WIMS> CIM: August 18, 2005 minutes posted

    Hi Craig,
     
    Good minutes - thanks.
     
    All - please look at Printer and _other_ object classes in CIM Printing.
    Overall,
    a very small number of the Printer MIB and IPP attributes are presently
    defined
    in CIM Printing. This affects the size of the eventual alignment work
    (nearterm
    it's smaller, longterm it's a much bigger job than I had anticipated).
     
    Cheers,
    - Ira
     

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

            -----Original Message-----
            From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org]On Behalf Of
    Whittle, Craig
            Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:36 PM
            To: 'wims@pwg.org'
            Subject: WIMS> CIM: August 18, 2005 minutes posted
            
            

            All:

             

            Minutes from the PWG-CIM Alignment Working Group teleconference
    call have been posted. See
    ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/minutes/cim_050818.pdf.

             

            Best regards,

            **CW

             



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