RE: WIMS> Posted WSDL/2.0 for WIMS v0.10 (28 November 2005)

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Tue Nov 29 2005 - 13:33:58 EST

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    Hi Pete,

    Yes, I'll build a 'wims-local-date.zip' bundle (with the short filenames
    without date suffixes) and post it to the WIMS FTP site.

    BUT - note that this is WSDL/2.0 - there is no released tool in the
    universe that UNDERSTANDS this to be WSDL/2.0. XML SPY and browsers
    simply understand it to be well-formed XML. Even the new XML SPY 2006
    ONLY supports and graphically displays WSDL/1.1 definitions.

    This is the problem for WIMS - we want to normatively specify WSDL/2.0
    and not WSDL/1.1 (which can't even express some of these bindings and
    details of encoding/serialization) - but the W3C isn't finished with
    the responses to the second last call (October 2005) comments.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:Peter.Zehler@xeroxlabs.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:02 AM
    > To: McDonald, Ira
    > Subject: RE: WIMS> Posted WSDL/2.0 for WIMS v0.10 (28 November 2005)
    >
    >
    > Ira,
    > Could you save me some busy work and send me a zip of your WSDL and
    > associated schemas?
    > Thanks,
    > Pete
    >
    >
    > Peter Zehler
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
    > McDonald, Ira
    > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:26 PM
    > To: 'wims@pwg.org'
    > Subject: WIMS> Posted WSDL/2.0 for WIMS v0.10 (28 November 2005)
    >
    > Hi folks, Monday (28
    > November 2005)
    >
    > I have just posted a first draft of informative WSDL/2.0 for WIMS/1.0
    > which specifies complete bindings for the Agent and Manager Interfaces
    > over HTTP/1.1 (direct XML in HTTP POST), SOAP/1.1, and SOAP/1.2.
    >
    > This XML specification for this WSDL file (but NOT the WSDL itself)
    > validates without warnings using XML SPY 2004, XRay 2.0, and
    > Amaya 9.2.2
    > (the free W3C Browser) at:
    >
    > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/wimsbind-20051128.wsdl
    > - WSDL/2.0 for WIMS/1.0 v0.10
    >
    > I think that this draft specifies completely unambiguous
    > bindings, when
    > combined with the rules in the latest W3C WSDL/2.0 drafts
    > (August 2005).
    > The specification is blessedly short because application
    > errors are NOT
    > exported as WSDL faults (and mapped to SOAP and HTTP faults
    > as well) as
    > was done in PSI/1.0. W3C WSDL/2.0 in fact recommends self-contained
    > protocols that avoid the binding of out-of-band faults, when possible.
    >
    > I'm continuing work on example messages in SOAP and HTTP envelopes.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > - Ira
    >
    > PS - This document can be viewed as XML with IE, Firefox,
    > Netscape, and
    > other browsers. The 'structured view' in the free W3C Amaya is
    > excellent.
    >
    >
    > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    > phone: +1-906-494-2434
    > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
    >

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