RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

From: Richard_Landau@Dell.com
Date: Mon Jan 05 2009 - 18:54:54 EST

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    Ship it!
     
    rick
     
    PS: No one else liked ISMS, eh? I thought it was cute, where ISM =
    dogma, doctrine, theory, "a belief accepted as authoritative by some
    group," etc. Oh, well.
     

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    From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
    William A Wagner
    Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 17:01
    To: wims@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

    I like "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics". Odd that we hadn't
    thought of "Work..." before.

     

    Any objections?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Bill Wagner

     

    From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Dave
    Whitehead
    Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:31 PM
    To: Ira McDonald
    Cc: Ira McDonald; Petrie, Glen; Harry Lewis; owner-wims@pwg.org;
    wims@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

     

    How about "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics" -- that way we
    don't need to explain the missing "G."

    dhw

    David H. Whitehead
    Development Engineer
    Lexmark International, Inc.
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    "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
    Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org

    01/05/09 04:21 PM

    To

    "Harry Lewis" <harryl@us.ibm.com>, "Ira McDonald"
    <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>

    cc

    "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com>, wims@pwg.org

    Subject

    Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

     

                    

    Hi,

    So, "Working Group for Imaging Management Semantics (WIMS)"

    Bill is quite right that Services is not the correct scope.

    A precedent is IETF PWG (Printer Working Group, originally
    chartered for RFC 1179 and later for RFC 1759).

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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    On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl@us.ibm.com> wrote:
    >
    > So that would be "Working group for Imaging Management Services"?
    > (Semantics?) That'd be OK.
    >
    > Also, I'd have no problem retiring both PMP and WIMS and migrating
    into ISMS
    > or some other agreeable new name.
    >
    > Also, I'd have no problem just keeping WIMS as is and not getting too
    > concerned that everything in the bucket is not "Web based".
    >
    > Harry Lewis
    > Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
    > Phone: 303-924-5337
    > e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com
    > infoprint.com
    >
    >
    > P Think before you print
    >
    >
    > "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com>
    > Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org
    >
    > 01/05/2009 12:21 PM
    >
    > To
    > <wims@pwg.org>
    > cc
    > Subject
    > RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I support W as "Working group"
    >
    > ________________________________
    > From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
    > Richard_Landau@Dell.com
    > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:10 AM
    > To: wims@pwg.org
    > Subject: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?
    >
    >
    > Re: changing the name of the WIMS group to reflect its broader scope
    >
    > If the goal is to retain the acronym WIMS, we must construct a
    suitable
    > backronym. The problem is the W, since the absorbed PMP items are not
    > "Web-based." The current charter draft suggests "Wide-scope."
    >
    > A few minutes with a dictionary yielded some other possibilities.
    >
    > Interesting but rejected:
    > - Wagner's (practical)
    > - Wonderful (boastful)
    > - Whiz-bang (flippant)
    >
    > Possible:
    > - Well-known
    > - Working group for, as in "Working group for Imaging Management
    Semantics."
    >
    > So long as the W does not stand for Washington, or for any other
    meaning of
    > "W" recently related to Washington, it's okay.
    >
    > Of course, we could always change the name slightly, since lots of
    > interesting words end in MS for Management Semantics. For example,
    Imaging
    > Systems Management Semantics, or ISMS. Has kind of a nice ring to it.
    >
    > rick
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