RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

From: Harry Lewis (harryl@us.ibm.com)
Date: Mon Jan 05 2009 - 19:27:17 EST

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    Bill, sounds great. Only comment from me... didn't "S" used to stand for
    "Services"? Will we, in the future, risk feeling now that the groups
    efforts are LIMITED to semantics (whereas, semantics can always be viewed
    as supporting services)?

    Harry Lewis
    Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
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    "William A Wagner" <wamwagner@comcast.net>
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    RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?

    I like "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics". Odd that we hadn?t
    thought of ?Work?? before.
     
    Any objections?
     
    Thanks,
     
    Bill Wagner
     
    From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Dave
    Whitehead
    Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:31 PM
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    Subject: Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?
     

    How about "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics" -- that way we
    don't need to explain the missing "G."

    dhw

    David H. Whitehead
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    "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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    01/05/09 04:21 PM

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    Hi,

    So, "Working Group for Imaging Management Semantics (WIMS)"

    Bill is quite right that Services is not the correct scope.

    A precedent is IETF PWG (Printer Working Group, originally
    chartered for RFC 1179 and later for RFC 1759).

    Cheers,
    - Ira

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    On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl@us.ibm.com> wrote:
    >
    > So that would be "Working group for Imaging Management Services"?
    > (Semantics?) That'd be OK.
    >
    > Also, I'd have no problem retiring both PMP and WIMS and migrating into
    ISMS
    > or some other agreeable new name.
    >
    > Also, I'd have no problem just keeping WIMS as is and not getting too
    > concerned that everything in the bucket is not "Web based".
    >
    > Harry Lewis
    > Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
    > Phone: 303-924-5337
    > e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com
    > infoprint.com
    >
    >
    > P Think before you print
    >
    >
    > "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com>
    > Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org
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    > 01/05/2009 12:21 PM
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    > RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?
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    > I support W as "Working group"
    >
    > ________________________________
    > From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
    > Richard_Landau@Dell.com
    > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:10 AM
    > To: wims@pwg.org
    > Subject: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?
    >
    >
    > Re: changing the name of the WIMS group to reflect its broader scope
    >
    > If the goal is to retain the acronym WIMS, we must construct a suitable
    > backronym. The problem is the W, since the absorbed PMP items are not
    > "Web-based." The current charter draft suggests "Wide-scope."
    >
    > A few minutes with a dictionary yielded some other possibilities.
    >
    > Interesting but rejected:
    > - Wagner's (practical)
    > - Wonderful (boastful)
    > - Whiz-bang (flippant)
    >
    > Possible:
    > - Well-known
    > - Working group for, as in "Working group for Imaging Management
    Semantics."
    >
    > So long as the W does not stand for Washington, or for any other meaning
    of
    > "W" recently related to Washington, it's okay.
    >
    > Of course, we could always change the name slightly, since lots of
    > interesting words end in MS for Management Semantics. For example,
    Imaging
    > Systems Management Semantics, or ISMS. Has kind of a nice ring to it.
    >
    > rick
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