FIN> RE: Fin Device Capacity units

FIN> RE: Fin Device Capacity units

Bergman, Ron Ron.Bergman at Hitachi-hkis.com
Mon Nov 20 16:34:51 EST 2000


Harry,

If I recall correctly, the finDeviceTable parameters maxCapacity and 
currentLevel were intended to be used to define the level of the forms 
in an output tray.  The use of these objects for supplies was never
discussed.

For supplies there certainly is an overlap between the two groups.  
We could add the restriction that the objects only apply to output
trays and add the value -3 to indicate that the object is not
applicable or simply allow use of these objects for supplies.

If we accept the later alternative, for your example of a stapler, 
it would be best if the values for maxCapacity and currentLevel were 
identical in both tables.  

I don't see a problem with either approach but restricting the
objects in the device table to output trays seems to be a cleaner
approach.

Comments for other FIN MIB participants?

	Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM [mailto:harryl at us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:24 AM
To: Bergman, Ron
Cc: fin at pwg.org
Subject: RE: Fin Device Capacity units


Ron, there's another question. We can indicate capacity (max current etc) 
for the finDevice, itself as well as the finSupplies associated with the 
finDevice. In some cases, I can see where a finDevice might have several 
types of supplies but in MANY cases, the finDevice will have one supply 
(consider a simple stapler). In this case, it seems the maxCapacity and 
currentLevel of the finDeivce would be identical to that of the finSupply, 
right?
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Harry Lewis 
IBM Printing Systems 
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"Bergman, Ron" <Ron.Bergman at Hitachi-hkis.com>
11/16/2000 09:04 AM

 
        To:     Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM at IBMUS, fin at pwg.org
        cc:     "Bergman, Ron" <Ron.Bergman at Hitachi-hkis.com>
        Subject:        RE: Fin Device Capacity units


Harry,

You are correct, we missed this!

I will add "items(18)" to PrtCapacityUnitTC in the Printer MIB
when it reaches the RFC Editor.  This entry is already in
PrtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC and it should have been added
to both.

        Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM [mailto:harryl at us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:30 PM
To: fin at pwg.org
Cc: rbergma at hitachi-hkis.com
Subject: Fin Device Capacity units


It would appear that we overlooked adding fin types to the
PrtCapacityUnitTC. The only units in PrtCapacityUnitTC are
tenThousandthsOfInches(3), micrometers(4), sheets(8), feet(16),
meters(17). How, then, are we
to indicate the capacity or max capacity of a finisher device subunit such
as a stapler?

Also, it appears that, for simple finishers, it will be redundant to
describe the capacity and max capacity in both the Device and Supply
entries. (of course, more complex finishers may have multiple supplies and
supply types). In this case, is the recommendation to just let the
redundancy exist?

FinDeviceEntry ::= SEQUENCE {
      finDeviceIndex                 Integer32,
      finDeviceType                  FinDeviceTypeTC,
      finDevicePresentOnOff          PresentOnOff,
      finDeviceCapacityUnit          PrtCapacityUnitTC,
      finDeviceMaxCapacity           Integer32,
      finDeviceCurrentCapacity       Integer32,
      finDeviceAssociatedMediaPaths  OCTET STRING,
      finDeviceAssociatedOutputs     OCTET STRING,
      finDeviceStatus                PrtSubUnitStatusTC,
      finDeviceDescription           OCTET STRING

and also in the

FinSupplyEntry ::= SEQUENCE {
      finSupplyIndex               Integer32,
      finSupplyDeviceIndex         Integer32,
      finSupplyClass               PrtMarkerSuppliesClassTC,
      finSupplyType                PrtMarkerSuppliesTypeTC,
      finSupplyDescription         OCTET STRING,
      finSupplyUnit                PrtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC,
      finSupplyMaxCapacity         Integer32,
      finSupplyCurrentLevel        Integer32,
      finSupplyColorName           OCTET STRING
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Harry Lewis
IBM Printing Systems
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