Harry,
Interesting! I like this interpretation. For a stapler, the max could be 90 sheets. But
with 40# paper the capacity may be reduced to 35 sheets. Does provide practical
information in some cases.
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl at us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:24 PM
To: Bergman, Ron
Cc: fin at pwg.org; McDonald, Ira; Hopkins, Mark
Subject: RE: FIN> RE: Finisher MIB [finDeviceMaxCapacity]
Actually, I think the answer is 90 / 90 in this case.
I am assuming when Mark says "the stapler is able to staple 90 sheets together" that he means that the MAX capacity of the stapler is 90.
It the stapler were "stopped down" so to speak... so that the CURRENT capacity were (ex) 35... then I'd say 90 / 35.
At least, this is how I had been viewing these attributes.
The only other interpretation that makes sense to me (in Mark's example) would be 90 / 70, 90 / 69, 90 / 68...
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Harry Lewis
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IBM Printing Systems
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303-924-5337
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"Bergman, Ron" <Ron.Bergman at hitachi-ps.us>
Sent by: fin-owner at pwg.org
09/15/2004 06:56 PM
To
"Hopkins, Mark" <Mark.Hopkins2 at xerox.com>, "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald at sharplabs.com>, <fin at pwg.org>
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Subject
RE: FIN> RE: Finisher MIB [finDeviceMaxCapacity]
Mark,
You're making this too complicated.
The stapler is a finishing device. The output tray is an output.
Max capacity for the stapler is 90 and for the output is 500.
Current capacity (level) is 20 and 200 respectively.
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Hopkins, Mark [mailto:Mark.Hopkins2 at xerox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: Bergman, Ron; McDonald, Ira; fin at pwg.org
Subject: RE: FIN> RE: Finisher MIB [finDeviceMaxCapacity]
To be concrete about this:
Suppose I have a stapler attached to a printer on an output tray to can
hold 500 sheets. The stapler is able to staple 90 sheets together.
Suppose the output tray has 200 sheets in it. Suppose we are currently
printing a 40 sheet document to be stapled and the first 20 sheets are
in the stapler, waiting for the rest of the document.
At this point, should finDeviceMaxCapacity be set to 500, and
finDeviceCurrentCapacity be set to 300?
Or should finDeviceMaxCapacity be set to 90 and finDeviceCurrentCapacity
be set to 70?
Or should finDeviceMaxCapacity be set to 500 and
finDeviceCurrentCapacity be set to 90?
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman at hitachi-ps.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:25 PM
To: McDonald, Ira; Hopkins, Mark; fin at pwg.org
Subject: RE: FIN> RE: Finisher MIB [finDeviceMaxCapacity]
Ira,
I agree finDeviceCurrentCapacity can be misleading. It is intended
to indicate the current "level" (normally sheets) of the device.
I don't know why we settled on this terminolgy. But if you look at
the output group in the printer MIB, it indicates "remaining capacity".
Ron Bergman
-----Original Message-----
From: fin-owner at pwg.org [mailto:fin-owner at pwg.org]On Behalf Of McDonald,
Ira
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:18 PM
To: 'Hopkins, Mark'; McDonald, Ira; 'fin at pwg.org'
Subject: FIN> RE: Finisher MIB [finDeviceMaxCapacity]
Hi Mark,
finDeviceMaxCapacity refers to the (usually paper handling)
capacity of the finishing device itself (binder, stapler,
etc.), not of supplies (like staples).
finDeviceCurrentCapacity is ambiguous (by my lights). I don't
think it applies. Note it's NOT called '...CurrentLevel',
as used in finSupplyCurrentLevel.
Ron - can you clarify?
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Hopkins, Mark [mailto:Mark.Hopkins2 at xerox.com]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:05 PM
To: McDonald, Ira
Subject: Finisher MIB
Ira,
I was just wondering if you could provide a hint to the intended meaning
of MIB objects finDeviceMaxCapacity and finDeviceCurrentCapacity in the
finisher mib.
These do not describe how much of a supply remains (those are in
finSupplyMaxCapacity and finSupplyCurrentLevel), or how much room
remains in the output tray (see prtOutputRemainingCapacity),
Mark Hopkins
Xerox Corp
585-425-6378
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