[Cloud] Minutes posted from today's concall

[Cloud] Minutes posted from today's concall

[Cloud] Minutes posted from today's concall

larryupthegrove larryupthegrove at comcast.net
Tue Sep 25 00:24:24 UTC 2012


Bill,

 

" Therefore, the Cloud WG activity is largely limited to modeling the
interface between the Cloud Print Manager (read the printer) and the Cloud
service (no longer called the Cloud Print Service)".

 

My recollection was that it is not Cloud Print Service being eliminated
(connection to the Cloud Print Manager), but the term "Cloud Print Provider"
is being replaced by Cloud Service.

 

Larry

 

From: cloud-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of
William A Wagner
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:45 PM
To: 'Randy Turner'; cloud at pwg.org
Subject: RE: [Cloud] Minutes posted from today's concall

 

Hi Randy,

 

Although I do not recall the email exchange you refer to, it was originally
proposed by some that Cloud activity should be handled in IPP. The objection
was that that consideration of Cloud  imaging should not be limited to an
IPP context.  

 

The mapping activity was proposed as a best practices effort within the
Cloud group to specifically address the fact that existing Cloud printing
used PPDs or XPS (actually MSPS) to identify printer and job request
characteristics, and that defining the correlation to the PWG model would
assist in an eventual transition to a Semantic Model compatible Cloud
Printing approach. Other mappings, such as JDF and IPDS, MODCA and CIM were
added later by others, with the effort enlarged to a standards track
activity. The intent here was not related to Cloud Imaging and,
realistically, the effort belongs in the Semantic Model WG, not the Cloud
WG. By the way, the PWG Job Ticket activity was a Semantic Model, not a
Cloud project.

 

It has been decided that the areas of Cloud  Printing  that I believe you
regard as "Cloud Specific" , that is the authentication, authorization and
what has been referred to as User association and printer registration, are
out of scope  with regard to anything but a general functional description.
Further, you and others have asserted that the printing aspects of Cloud
Printing are no different from  Print Service based printing. Therefore, the
Cloud WG activity is largely limited to modeling the interface between the
Cloud Print Manager (read the printer) and the Cloud service (no longer
called the Cloud Print Service). This interface has already been largely
defined in the Semantic Model.

 

Finally, with the IPP binding activity  being transferred to the IPP WG,
there really is little left for the Cloud WG; so, although it has not
happened yet, it might be reasonable to concentrate these activities solely
within the IPP group. Should some volunteers appear to at least do a
modeling of what you call the Cloud Specific aspects, that might be a
reasonable activity for the Cloud WG.

Bill Wagner

 

From: cloud-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of
Randy Turner
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:36 PM
To: cloud at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [Cloud] Minutes posted from today's concall

 

 

Hi Guys,

 

Awhile back, there was an email exchange that indicated much of what we were
doing with job tickets, mapping, etc. was not specific to "The Cloud", and
that it might make sense to concentrate these activities solely within the
IPP group.

 

Has this occurred? Or will this occur?   

 

The past conversation seemed to suggest that the Cloud Imaging group should
be focused on activities that have specific Cloud application and not spend
time on work that is not cloud-specific.

 

I would really like to see this happen sooner than later.I noticed on the
Cloud Imaging slide deck for the upcoming meeting that there still seems to
be a lot of work going on that seems to be "not" cloud specific.

 

R.

 

 

On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Michael Sweet wrote:

 

All,

 

I have posted the minutes from today's joint IPP/Cloud conference call to:

 

 
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120924.pdf

 

Action item (for Cloud):

 

            - Paul to provide draft of MSPS mapping by November 12, 2012

 

__________________________________________________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

 


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