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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Bill,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the comments....</div><div><br></div><div>I will make the change to the time-source description, removing the "chip" qualifier, I was just trying to define the value using a concrete example the NEA guys would understand</div><div><br></div><div>I used the phrase "between interfaces" because it's more sellable in this group - and I think it even applies to your PSTN example. The PSTN-fax is an interface, any network connection is an "interface", and you use the term "local interface" which suggests something else, but it's still an interface. I didn't qualify my use of the term interface because I wanted it to apply to anything.</div><div><br></div><div>If we want to get PSTN-specific, and actually mandate that it's the PSTN interface we're talking about with regards to forwarding, then I would create another PSTN forwarding attribute and add it to the HCD category...</div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:13 AM, <a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net">wamwagner@comcast.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Randy,</font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">This appears to cover the essense. I have two little quibbles.</font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. In forwarding enable, "<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica"> forwarding<o:p></o:p></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> o</span>f network packets between interfaces" is perhaps inappropriate since one of the main concerns is communication of infromation presented on PSTN or local interfaces onto the network.</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">2. In time source, I suggest that "<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">onboard clock/calendar chip" is too specific and just onboard date-time clock is preferable.</span></span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Thanks,</span></span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Bill Wagner</span></span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></span></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica; mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></span></span></font> </div> <div> </div> <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <br>From: Dave Whitehead <<a href="mailto:david@lexmark.com">david@lexmark.com</a>> <br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Randy,</font> <br><br><font face="Helvetica" size="3">Looks good. Two comments about Configuration State:</font> <br><br><font face="Helvetica" size="3">1> We should mandate the use of a cryptographically secure hash function (SHA256/512)</font> <br><br><font face="Helvetica" size="3">2> Vendors provide the set of available configuration items but the customer selects which items to include in the hash -- some they care about, some they don't.</font> <br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">David H. Whitehead<br>Development Engineer<br>Lexmark International, Inc.<br>859.825.4914<br>davidatlexmarkdotcom</font> <br><br><br> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="40%"><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><b>Randy Turner <<a href="mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com">rturner@amalfisystems.com</a>></b> </font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Sent by: <a href="mailto:owner-ids@pwg.org">owner-ids@pwg.org</a></font><p><font face="sans-serif" size="1">08/15/08 04:02 AM</font> </p> </td><td width="59%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">To</font></div> </td><td><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><a href="mailto:ids@pwg.org">ids@pwg.org</a></font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">cc</font></div> </td><td> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Subject</font></div> </td><td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">IDS> DRAFT: IETF NEA proposal</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br> <table> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td> </td><td></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><br><tt><font size="2">Hi All,<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">Please read the attached RTF and provide any feedback you may have...<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">Please excuse the VERY simple, raw formatting I'm using - this has to be<br>in the simplest ASCII text form possible for eventual emailing to the<br>NEA<br>mailing list.<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">For now, just concentrate on the content :) :)<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">Thanks!<br>Randy<br></font></tt><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">[attachment "draft-nea-proposal.rtf" deleted by Dave Whitehead/Lex/Lexmark] </font><br><br><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>