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<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>On the
second issue, I believe the original issue from the minutes was whether to use
the IPP/1.1 terminology for IPPFAX Sender and IPPFAX Receiver, which would be
IPPFAX Client and IPPFAX Printer, not IPPFAX Host. To me the term Host is
much too vague. To me a Host could be a sender or a
receiver.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So I'm
quite opposed to using the term "Host". Whether to continue using the
IPPFAX terms Sender and Receiver or go back to the IPP/1.1 terms of Client and
Printer is harder to decide. If we go back to the IPP Client and Printer
terms we would make it clear that the term Printer means the software
entity that accepts requests and returns responses, as in IPP, and need not
actually have any hardware associated at all. The advantage of the
term Receiver, is that no hardware is suggested by the name.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>However, the problem with using the term "receiver" is that it affects
the names of some of the attributes ("receiver" vs. "printer"). Also we
are stuck with the IPP/1.1 terminology of Printer Description attributes and the
'printer-description' attribute group name used as a keyword in the
Get-Printer-Attributes request.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
attribute names affected are:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383413920-18062001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3></FONT>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389244">5.1<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-sending-user-identity (text(MAX)) operation/Job Description
attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">9</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389245">5.2<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-receiving-user-identity (text(MAX)) operation/Job
Description attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">9</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389246">5.3<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-sender-identity (name(255)) operation/Job Description
attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">10</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389247">5.4<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-receiver-identity (name(255)) Printer Description
attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">10</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN class=383413920-18062001>We
should still keep the terms Sending User and Receiving User, but we could change
the terms Sender to Client and Receiver to Printer.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN class=383413920-18062001>Then
the attributes would be named:</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN
class=383413920-18062001> </P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389244">5.1<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-sending-user-identity (text(MAX)) operation/Job Description
attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">9</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389245">5.2<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-receiving-user-identity (text(MAX)) operation/Job
Description attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">9</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389246">5.3<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-<SPAN class=383413920-18062001>client</SPAN>-identity
(name(255)) operation/Job Description attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">10</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><A
href="outbind://6/#_Toc515389247">5.4<SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN></SPAN>ippfax-<SPAN class=383413920-18062001>printer</SPAN>-identity
(name(255)) Printer Description attribute<SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen">10</SPAN><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: none; COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none; mso-hide: screen"></SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN
class=383413920-18062001>Comments?</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoToc2><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN
class=383413920-18062001>Tom</SPAN></SPAN></P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John Pulera
[mailto:jpulera@minolta-mil.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 07, 2001
09:45<BR><B>To:</B> IPP-Fax Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> IFX> some UIF
issues...thoughts anyone?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While revising the UIF spec, some issues have
surfaced and it would be great if we <SPAN class=783301116-07062001>can
generate some discussion on them</SPAN>:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>1) The MIME type for UIF
data</STRONG>.<BR> From the IPPFAX
teleconferences held on May 30 & June 6, there was consensus to use
"image/tiff; application=faxbw" and "image/tiff; application=faxcolor". The
primary argument for using these was that it is the same MIME type used for
Internet Fax, and so there would be less of a conformance issue with an IPPFAX
device serving as a gateway for Internet Fax documents.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001>
However...If we are going to make UIF a protocol-independent data format
(which was also agreed at the May 30 telecon), I do not think think we should
directly associate it with Internet Fax. Perhaps "image/tiff; application=uif"
would be a better compromise in that UIF would be made independent of Internet
Fax while existing TIFF readers can still do something with the UIF
data.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=783301116-07062001></SPAN><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001> In
addition, is it valid to use the same MIME type as Internet Fax if the data
requirements for UIF and TIFF-FX are not
identical? (TIFF-FX is more strict with resolutions and
allowed image widths)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=783301116-07062001></SPAN><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001><STRONG>2) The use of the terms "Client" to mean the
"Sender" and "Host" to mean the
"Receiver".</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001> Is "Client" interchangeable with
"Sender" and "Host" with "Receiver"? Should we be using the more generic terms
"Client" and "Host" instead of "Sender" and "Receiver" in the UIF spec since
the UIF spec is NOT protocol-specific?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=783301116-07062001>Does anyone
have any thoughts on these issues?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=783301116-07062001>John</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>