Hi Henrik,
I think I need a consideration for "i-mode" to map ipp on BlueTooth.
As you know, "i-mode" provided by NTT DoCoMo is the famous service for
phones to internet and e-mail in Japan. Over 5 million people use this
service
now and it is increasing users quickly.
"i-mode" is yet another service to WAP/WAE.
Satoshi FUJITANI
RICOH Co.,LTD. Tokyo Japan
fujitani at isp.rp.ricoh.co.jp
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ipp at pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp at pwg.org]On Behalf
> Of henrik.holst at i-data.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:51 PM
> To: ipp at pwg.org> Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
>> Exactly, for that reason would it be nice to map IPP on
> WAP/WAE and not HTTP/TCP
> because the phones contains the WAP/WAE stack.
>> Henrik
>>>>>don at lexmark.com on 25-04-2000 13:36:11
>> To: Henrik Holst/INT at i-data> cc: ipp at pwg.org>> Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
>>>>> My point is that MOST bluetooth phones will probably NOT have
> TCP... only UDP.
> While the bluetooth spec may support it, if it is not in most
> phones than
> mandating it for printing won't be very successful.
>> Don Wright
>> Director, Strategic & Technical Alliances
> Lexmark International, C14/035-3
> phone: 859-232-4808 fax: 603-963-8352
>>>> henrik.holst%i-data.com at interlock.lexmark.com on 04/25/2000
> 03:46:45 AM
>> To: ipp%pwg.org at interlock.lexmark.com> cc: (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
> Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
>>>>>>> It's right you could run IP over Bluetooth. Today there is
> only one profile
> describing how
> to implement a LAN access point, not a really LAN on
> Bluetooth, but is just a
> matter of time
> before this profile will be finished. But I am not sure the
> mobil phones and the
> PDA's will
> implement a whole TCP/IP stack just for printing. They have a
> WAP stack, so I
> think they
> would preferred to reuse the stack for printing to.
>> Henrik
>>>>> "Paul Moore" <pmoore at peerless.com> on 19-04-2000 18:09:17
>> To: Henrik Holst/INT at i-data> cc: ipp at pwg.org>> Subject: Re: IPP> IPP over other transports
>>>>> Regarding bluetooth - my assumption was that there would be
> IP over BT. Then we
> can do plain old IPP rather than inventing something new - or
> am I missing
> something here.
>> Regarding IR - the good thing about it is that ~100% of
> laptops and many PDAs
> have it today - and yet it is poorly exploited anywhere.
> Secondly it is an
> inherently point and shoot interface which make it ideal for
> things like
> printing where you are communicating with a specific piece of
> hardware as
> opposed to a virtualized service. I know there is IP over IR
> but that does not
> seem to be widely used.
>> Carl-uno I think that we should put 'exotic transports' on
> the agenda of an IPP
> meeting soon becuase there is obviuosly interest and it is
> not in anybody's
> interest to have this fragment into lots separate efforts.
>>>>>>henrik.holst at i-data.com on 04/19/2000 01:42:25 AM
>> To: ipp at pwg.org> cc: (bcc: Paul Moore/AUCO/US)
>> Subject: IPP> IPP over other transports
>>>>>> A last IPP meeting, I can see you discussed the topic 'IPP over other
> transports'
> and that Paul Moore metioned the infrared transport. In
> i-data we are working on
> the new wireless technoligy BlueTooth. I think in a few years
> you will not
> anymore
> see the use of infrared soulutions anymore, but it will be
> BlueTooth. Ericsson,
> Nokia
> and the PDU's are going to implement BlueTooth in their
> products. In i-data we
> are working on a LAN profile to Bluetooth as well as on a
> Printing Profile. Our
> solution for printing over Bluetooth will be to use IPP over
> WAP. WAP is
> implemented
> in some mobil phones today, and will be widely spread by the
> years. WAP looks
> like
> a lot like HTTP. So I think it would be interesting to run
> IPP on the top of
> WAP. You
> would then be able to print from your PDA or mobil phone.
>> Henrik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>