[IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

[IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

[IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Thu Apr 18 14:12:55 UTC 2013


O'Hara,

On 2013-04-17, at 11:03 PM, kiyotaka.ohara at brother.co.jp wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
>> The latter.
> 
> Thanks for clarifying.
> But I thought that we have to provide each status just before the cancellation happens.
> Because the text says "prior to". 
> 
> "The “destination-statuses” Job Description attribute (section 7.3.1) provides detailed information regarding the progress of the job prior to cancellation."

I suppose there is some room for interpretation here, and I will clarify in the next update of FaxOut.

The intent is to see whether sending of the job to a particular destination was completed, canceled, or aborted (i.e. what was the terminating state of the destination) to allow the client to resubmit the job at a later time as needed, but only using those destinations that did not already receive the job completely.


> 
> Regards,
> 
> O'Hara
> 
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> To: Matsuda, Munehisa (BIL-SDEV1) 松田 宗久
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: [IPP] Questions for the stable draft of IPP FaxOut
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 2013-04-17, at 4:24 AM, munehisa.matsuda at brother.co.jp wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> We have two questions regarding the stable draft of IPP FaxOut.
>> 
>> 1. Send-Hardcopy-Document:
>> Since we cannot imagine the usage, we do not understand why this operation MUST be supported.
>> So could you tell us the use case of the Send-Hardcopy-Document operation?
>> If this operation is NOT critical for IPP FaxOut, we suggest to change it to be "optional" for implementing easily.
> 
> If you have a scan head on your MFP then users will want to be able to fax documents from that scan head.  There are already a lot of mobile applications being provided that serve as alternatives to the printer's own control panel, so this operation would allow those applications to support faxout as well.
> 
> And FWIW, the current wording is based on the intended conformance of the Semantic Model FaxOut spec, which makes the operation required.
> 
>> 2. destination-statuses:
>> We want to clarify which transmission status value should be specified in the "destination-statuses" when a multiple destination job is canceled.
>> Details are described below, but we think it is slightly unclear.
> 
> I'm happy to clarify the text here.
> 
>> "4.1.3 Job Terminating State
>> "The terminating state of an IPP FaxOut Job reflects the absolute final disposition of the Job. Jobs in the ‘canceled’ state were canceled by a User using the Cancel-Job, Cancel-Jobs, or Cancel-My-Jobs operations, regardless of whether any or all of the Job has been processed or partially transferred to its destination URI(s). The “destination-statuses” Job Description attribute (section 7.3.1) provides detailed information regarding the progress of the job prior to cancellation."
>> 
>> For example, the job has 5 destinations.
>> The job is canceled when the device is transfering fax document to 3rd destination.
>> ...
>> job-state: canceled
>> destination-statuses:
>> 1. completed
>> 2. completed
>> 3. canceled
>> 4. canceled
>> 5. canceled
>> 
>> Which is correct?
> 
> The latter.
> 
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