[IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

[IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

Rizzo, Christopher Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com
Thu Feb 13 19:44:31 UTC 2020


Ok by me to move to 5100.16.  Apologies for such late inputs I know Transaction Printing is at last call.

Chris

Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

From: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org>
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:43 AM
To: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>
Cc: PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

Chris,

printer-mandatory-job-attributes is in 5100.13 (at present), although that document is also being revised so we *could* move printer-mandatory-job-attributes to 5100.16 and then be able to deal with the interactions more clearly...

Thoughts everyone?


On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>> wrote:
Sorry for the multiple emails.

Suggest changing Section 4.1 this:

Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each user account can support
them via the “job-account-id” and “job-accounting-user-id” Job Template attributes
[PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require these values in a print job creation
request by including the corresponding attribute names in the “printer-mandatory-job
attributes” Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7].

To this:

Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each user account can support
them via the “job-account-id” and “job-accounting-user-id” Job Template attributes
[PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require one or both of these values in a print job creation
request by including the corresponding attribute name(s) in the “printer-mandatory-job
attributes” Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7].  Printers notify Clients that one or both of these values
are optional in a print job creation request by including the corresponding attribute name(s) in the “printer-requested-job
attributes” Printer Description attribute.

Note: job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id cannot appear in both printer-mandatory-job-attributes and printer-requested-job-attributes at the same time.

Chris

Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

From: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:06 AM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org<mailto:msweet at msweet.org>>, PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

Apologies - 1 other question:

Should printer-requested-job-attributes be mentioned in regard to adding job-account-id or job-accounting-user-id when one or both of these may be supported but optional?  (ie - job-accounting-user-id present in printer-mandatory-job-attributes because can't print without it, but job-account-id in printer-requested-job-attributes because it is optional, but can print without it).

Thanks,
Chris

Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

From: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:02 AM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org<mailto:msweet at msweet.org>>, PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

Just some comments on this.  Hope not too late:

1. Line 230: "Use existing the existing IPP" should be "Use the existing IPP"
2. Should section 6.2 include job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)?
3. Should section 6.4 include job-account-id-supported, job-accounting-user-id-supported, job-account-id-default and job-accounting-user-id-default or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)?

Other than these questions, no issues.

Thanks,
Chris

Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com<mailto:Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

From: ipp <ipp-bounces at pwg.org<mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org>> on behalf of PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
Reply-To: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org<mailto:msweet at msweet.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM
To: PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)

[This Last Call starts today, January 30, 2020 and ends at 10pm PST on February 13, 2020]

All,

This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 specification, available at:

                 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans11-20200130.docx
                 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans11-20200130.pdf

This document defines extensions to the Internet Printing Protocol that support the business transaction logic needed for paid, PIN, release, and quota-based printing through local and commercial services.

This is an errata update of PWG 5100.16-2013.

Please reply to this message with any feedback, which we can review at the following IPP workgroup conference call.

Thanks!

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