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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <TITLE>OID Registrations</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Right, so 2699.1.3 woul.d presumably be assigned to the Counter MIB (the only</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>other MIB we're currently working on).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>It would be good to register both IPP (IETF RFC 2910/2911) and PSI (PWG 5104.2)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>in the Protocols section.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>I would suggest adding a new section (but not under Protocols) for LDAP attributes </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>and datatypes (which MUST </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>have globally unique OIDs over the wire - even in string </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>encoding, they send the dotted </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>decimal OIDs rather than attribute names or datatype </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>names).  We used IBM's LDAP arc for the LDAP Printer Schema (RFC 3712), but it</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>would have been helpful (for stability through drafts) to have used the PWG's arc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>- Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>PS - I seriously suggest that we create a directory '/pub/pwg/registrations'</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>or '/pub/pwg/assignments' (like IANA's root) that contains files and subdirectories</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>for any and all PWG-approved registrations.  I prefer it beside 'general' and</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>'standards' and 'candidates' - it's the right level of visibility to the casual FTP</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=106504220-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>browser.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839<BR>phone: +1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 15, 2005 11:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> McDonald, Ira; thrasher@lexmark.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Harry Lewis (E-mail); pmp@pwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OID Registrations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ira,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Note that Don's proposal was constructed primarily of examples.  The only real assignment at that time</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>was 2699.1.1 to the Job MIB.  His example of 2699.1.1.1 and 2699.1.1.2 were just examples as to how</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>the Job MIB could use the assignment.  As I explained in the "actual current assignments", the usage</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>in the MIB was somewhat different.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Protocols arc was reserved in case an OID was ever needed for PWG protocols, such as IPP.  As</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>you pointed out, this has not been used.  It may be a good idea to add IPP to the Protocols registration</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>section.  I don't recall if this was ever a formal proposal or just another example.  So the assignment</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>tree would then be:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>......2699.1........ MIBS<BR>..... 2699.1.1....... Job Monitoring MIB  (jobMonMIB, RFC 2707)<BR>..... 2699.1.2....... Port Monitor MIB  (ppmMIB, TBA)<BR>..... 2699.1.3....... (TBA)<BR>......2699.2........ PROTOCOLS<BR>..... 2699.2.1....... Internet Printing Protocol (IPP, RFC 2910, 2911)</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000>..... 2699.2.1.1 ..... IPP Operations<BR>..... 2699.2.1.2 ..... IPP Attributes<BR>..... 2699.2.2....... (TBA)<BR>..... 2699.3....... (TBA)</FONT><BR><BR>I am sure that Jerry will take the initiative, when he returns from Japan, to make this information available</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>in an obvious place on the PWG FTP site.  (He indicated in the call that it was part of his task as secretary.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=154253015-15042005>    <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ron</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 15, 2005 8:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Bergman, Ron; thrasher@lexmark.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Harry Lewis (E-mail); McDonald, Ira; pmp@pwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: OID Registrations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hi Ron,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Glad you could find Don's email.  I spent a long time searching the PWG server</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>in HTTP and FTP without finding anything yesterday.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>By the way, Don's original proposal that put Job MIB down two-levels was formally</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>invalid.  When the IETF designates an arc for an enterprise (e.g., 'pwg(2699)),</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>an immediate subordinate arc must contains MIB module registrations (remember</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>the parent arc belongs to the IETF, who get to make the MIB rules).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>NONE of the other uses (Protocols, IPP, etc.) have ever materialized.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>The eventual OID registrations document SHOULD be in plaintext and stored</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>in 'pub/pwg/general/registrations' (or some similarly obvious sub-directory of</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>'pub/pwg/general'.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=496541515-15042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>- Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839<BR>phone: +1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> thrasher@lexmark.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Harry Lewis (E-mail); Ira McDonald (E-mail 3); pmp@pwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> OID Registrations<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry,</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I found the Email from Don with the OID allocation proposal but I cannot</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>find in any of the minutes where it was approved and who was to create </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>the registration document.  I recall it being discussed in a meeting but</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>do not remember if anyone was assigned to followup.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>From Don's email in the JMP archives dated 14 Nov 1997, subject:</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Job MIB - trials and tribulations"</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>To be consistant, we might even want to do something like:</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>......2699.1........ MIBS<BR>..... 2699.1.1.1...... Job Mib<BR>..... 2699.1.1.2 ..... Future Job Mib extensions<BR>..... 2699.1.2.1 ..... Finisher Mib<BR>..... 2699.1.2.2 ..... Finisher Mib extensions<BR>..... 2699.1.3.1 ..... Hey, how about... Printer Mib<BR>..... 2699.1.3.2 ..... Printer MIB extensions<BR>..... 2699.1.3.2 ..... Printer MIB extensions<BR>......2699.2........ PROTOCOLS<BR>......2699.2.1...... IPP<BR>..... 2699.2.1.1 ..... IPP Operations (as suggested by someone, below)<BR>..... 2699.2.1.2 ..... IPP Attributes<BR>......2699.2.2....... Some Other Protocol<BR>......2699.3........ SOMETHING_ELSE_BESIDES_MIBS_AND_PROTOCOLS</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>The actual current official assignments are:</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>......2699.1........ MIBS<BR>..... 2699.1.1....... jobMonMIB<BR>..... 2699.1.1.1...... jobmonMIBObjects<BR>..... 2699.1.1.2 ..... jobmonMIBNotifications<BR>..... 2699.1.1.2 ..... jobmonMIBConformance<BR>..... 2699.1.2....... Port Monitor MIB<BR>......2699.2........ PROTOCOLS<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>where the third level is assigned by the project, not the PWG.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the present PWG OID assignment tree is:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>......2699.1........ MIBS<BR>..... 2699.1.1....... Job Monitoring MIB  (jobMonMIB, RFC 2707)<BR>..... 2699.1.2....... Port Monitor MIB  (ppmMIB, TBA)<BR>..... 2699.1.3....... (TBA)<BR>......2699.2........ PROTOCOLS<BR>..... 2699.2.2....... (TBA)<BR>..... 2699.3....... (TBA)<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, all we need is a home for this information.</FONT> </P> <P>        <FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron</FONT> </P><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>