PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

Wagner,William WWagner at
Fri Jan 31 14:53:35 EST 2003


I suggest we separate the questions of naming (which has had some specific problem cited) and process.

a. You indicated that the word "draft" was troublesome used for both working and standard at the same time.

b. At the f2f, the PSI group indicated that the titling of the different standards levels suggested very tentative documents to their superiors, and not worthy of trial implementation.

I also thought about the product designations of alpha, beta and final and possibly being appropriate for the PWG standards.  They do seem to reflect the proper sense of development state and should correlate to managers' understandings.\

Bill Wagner 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:38 PM
To: Wu, Michael HDi; pwg at
Subject: RE: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

So are you suggesting we can solve the two usages of the word "draft" in our
PWG process:

"Working Draft"
"Draft Standard"

by changing "Draft Standard" to "Final Beta Standard" or "Public Beta


-----Original Message-----
From: Wu, Michael HDi [mailto:Michael.Wu at]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:10
To: Hastings, Tom N; pwg at
Subject: RE: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

"Draft Standard" look like a "Final Beta" or "Public Beta".  I don't see why
we cannot use it.

Michael Wu 
Software Engineering Expertise Center 
Heidelberg Digital L.L.C. 

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Rochester, NY. 14624 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:25 PM
To: pwg at
Subject: PWG> "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron

Here is why I think that "Draft Standard" is an oxymoron.  Draft is too
fleeting.  Standard is meant to be more stable.

So I looked up the word "Draft" in the dictionary.  Webster's Seventh
Collegiate Dictionary says:

"a preliminary sketch, outline, or version".

We all use the word "draft" (or "working draft") to mean the document that
we update rapidly to get to a version that we all consider stable enough to
have a Last Call.

So one of the appealing suggestions made at today's call was to just remove
section 3.4 Draft Standard and have only 3.4 Proposed Standard and 3.6
Standard.  Both have to have a series of drafts to be reviewed to lead up to
being an approved Proposed Standard or an approved Standard.  And both need
to have a draft that is considered good enough to both trying a Last Call
and then the Last Call has to actually pass.

I think much of our trouble is terminology, so fixing the terminology, and
deleting a step seems to be a good thing to do and is NOT abandoning the
process or overturning turnips.


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