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I agree... xyz ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ---------------------------------------------- <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td>"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> Sent by: owner-pwg@pwg.org 03/11/2003 08:36 AM <td>                To:        "'don@lexmark.com'" <don@lexmark.com>, Dennis Carney/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS         cc:        pwg@pwg.org         Subject:        RE: PWG> Process document updated</table> <tt>Hi, Rather than introducing "wg" in quotes, I suggest we take up Dennis' idea of 'xyz' everywhere.  Especially because a Working Group that produces more than one standard needs a separate acronym for _each_ standard.  So sometimes it's "xyz" (just the working group short name) and sometimes (in the simple filename) it's "xyzacro" (where "acro" is for example "doc" in the "ippdoc" Document Object spec). Cheers, - Ira McDonald  High North Inc -----Original Message----- From: don@lexmark.com [mailto:don@lexmark.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:28 AM To: Dennis Carney Cc: pwg@pwg.org; don@lexmark.com Subject: Re: PWG> Process document updated Dennis: Yikes... I missed that in Clause 4.  We clearly need to use the same symbol throughout the document. ********************************************** Don Wright                 don@lexmark.com Chair,  IEEE SA Standards Board Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors f.wright@ieee.org / f.wright@computer.org Director, Alliances & Standards Lexmark International 740 New Circle Rd Lexington, Ky 40550 859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax) ********************************************** Dennis Carney <dcarney@us.ibm.com> on 03/11/2003 10:17:45 AM To:    pwg@pwg.org cc:    don@lexmark.com Subject:    Re: PWG> Process document updated In regards to your question 1, it's a bit worse: chapter 4 uses 'xyz'.  I guess it makes sense to use the same "generic working group abbreviation" in all places.  My personal vote would have been 'xyz', since it is very clear that it needs to be replaced with the actual working group abbreviation.  But I don't feel strongly about it.  If we *did* use 'wg', we could maybe put it in italics wherever it appears to make it clear it is a variable that needs to be replaced? Dennis                      don@lexmark.com                                               To:       Dennis                                               Carney/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS                      03/11/03 08:05 AM        cc:       pwg@pwg.org                                               Subject:  Re: PWG> Process                                               document updated A question and a thought: 1) Why in Clause 6 do we use "wg" as a stand-in for the working group's acronym and in Clause 8, we seem to use "xxx"?? 2) In regards to issue 4, I think we should require LOAs to be in place before a document progresses to "Candidate Standard." ********************************************** Don Wright                 don@lexmark.com Chair,  IEEE SA Standards Board Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors f.wright@ieee.org / f.wright@computer.org Director, Alliances & Standards Lexmark International 740 New Circle Rd Lexington, Ky 40550 859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax) ********************************************** Dennis Carney <dcarney@us.ibm.com>@pwg.org on 03/10/2003 07:21:59 PM Sent by:    owner-pwg@pwg.org To:    pwg@pwg.org cc: Subject:    PWG> Process document updated I have updated the PWG Process document with the changes discussed at the SM telecon last Thursday.  The changes resolved issues 1-6 in the prior version.  Issues 7-8 had to do with the LOA in the Intellectual Property chapter, and we didn't resolve those during the telecon, so I made no changes for those in this version. I added two new issues, having to do with the maturity version. I believe that this document is going to be discussed at the SM telecon this Thursday, March 13. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20-20030310.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20-20030310.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20-20030310-rev.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20-20030310-rev.pdf Dennis Carney IBM Printing Systems </tt>