[SM3] FW: SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported

[SM3] FW: SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported

[SM3] FW: SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 00:03:14 UTC 2014


Hi Norbert,

No - the 1.185 was the last version.  Daniel Manchala (SM WG chair)
has a local copy only of very recent updates.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Norbert Schade <Norbert.Schade at conexant.com
> wrote:

> All, keep in mind that I'm still working with 1.185.
>
> Maybe Pete did everything on the current (not yet public) version???
>
>
>
> *From:* Zehler, Peter [mailto:Peter.Zehler at xerox.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:04 PM
> *To:* Ira McDonald; Norbert Schade; Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup
> discussion list
> *Subject:* RE: FW: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported,
> JobResolversSupported
>
>
>
> That was the intent but the base classes were added midway through the MFD
> work so I may have missed a few things.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com<blueroofmusic at gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:01 PM
> *To:* Norbert Schade; Ira McDonald; Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup
> discussion list; Zehler, Peter
> *Subject:* Re: FW: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported,
> JobResolversSupported
>
>
>
> Hi Norbert,
>
> I see what you mean.  It's an oversight.  Constraints/Resolvers is supposed
> to be present for every Job service (not Resource or System Control).
>
> Pete - shouldn't these be in the base ImagingServiceDescriptionType?
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Ira
>
>
>  Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Norbert Schade <
> Norbert.Schade at conexant.com> wrote:
>
> Ira,
> Let me answer to you directly.
>
> This scan section is way shorter:
>
>         <xs:complexType name="ScanServiceDescriptionType">
>                 <xs:complexContent>
>                         <xs:extension base="ImagingServiceDescriptionType">
>                                 <xs:sequence>
>                                         <!--  service type (function of
> this service object) REQUIRED - MUST be single-valued  see WIMS Object
> Model - section 4 [WIMS-PRO] -->
>                                         <!--  list of URI supported by
> this service  REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued  see printer-uri-supported -
> section 4.4.1 [RFC2911] -->
>                                         <!-- service vendor-supplied
> description and/or label  OPTIONAL - MUST be single-valued  see
> printer-info - section 4.4.6 [RFC2911] -->
>                                         <!--  Object administrative name
> OPTIONAL - MUST be single-valued  see printer-name - section 4.4.4
> [RFC2911]  see prtGeneralPrinterName - section 6 [RFC3805] -->
>                                         <!-- list of services (by
> ID/name/URI) subordinate to this service  REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued -->
>                                         <!-- list of devices (by
> ID/name/URI) subordinate to this service  REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued -->
>                                         <!-- list of subunits (by ID)
> supported by this service,  REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued  see Printer
> Sub-Units - section 2.2 [RFC3805] -->
>                                         <!--  document formats supported
> by this service REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued  see
> document-format-supported - section 4.4.22 [RFC2911] -->
>                                         <!-- list of resources (by
> ID/name/URI) supported by this service  OPTIONAL - MAY be multi-valued see
> ResourceId in Resource XML schema  see ResourceName in Resource XML schema
> -->
>                                         <xs:element
> ref="DocumentPasswordSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
>                                         <xs:element
> ref="JobPasswordSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
>                                         <xs:element
> ref="JobPasswordEncryptionSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
>                                         <xs:any namespace="##other"
> minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
>                                 </xs:sequence>
>                         </xs:extension>
>                 </xs:complexContent>
>                 <!-- ScanServiceDescription - group -->
>         </xs:complexType>
>
>
> Than the corresponding extension in the print service.
> There I find the constraints stuff additionally.
> Norbert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sm3-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:sm3-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
> McDonald
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:46 PM
> To: Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list; Ira McDonald
> Subject: Re: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported,
> JobResolversSupported
>
> Hi Norbert,
>
> ALL of the services (including ScanServiceDescription) import and extend
> the base ImagingServiceDescriptionType).
>
> I think this is what you wanted?
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted
> Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary -
> IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing
> Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music /
> High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094 Summer  PO Box
> 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Norbert Schade <
> Norbert.Schade at conexant.com> wrote:
>
> > Just for the high level view:
> >
> > I find JobConstraintsSupported and JobResolversSupported objects under
> > PrintServiceDescription under PrintServiceBaseType under PrintService
> > in the PrintService schema.
> > As PrintServiceBaseType is also providing PrintServiceCapabilities,
> > this is rather nicely tied up, meaning it can all be covered in one
> > complex structure.
> >
> > When I search through the ScanService schema, I do find
> > ScanServiceCapabilities and ScanServiceDescription objects.
> > But the ...Description object is much shorter, especially not
> > providing any reference to that constraints stuff.
> > So to me it looks as if I'm supposed to create a somewhat independent
> > xml instance based on the ServiceTypes schema that deals with
> constraints.
> > Is that currently under review? Perhaps going to be merged into a
> > common ...Description object?
> > If yes, what is the intended schedule? Is that almost ready for a vote
> > or still heavily edited these days? That would likely have an impact
> > on which SM version we follow in our internal design.
> > Regards
> > Norbert
> >
> >
> > Norbert Schade
> > Systems Engineer (printing)
> > Imaging Solutions
> > Conexant Systems, Inc.
> > 201 Jones Road
> > Waltham, MA 02451
> > U.S.A.
> > Tel: 1-781-370-8929
> > Email: norbert.schade at conexant.com<mailto:norbert.schade at conexant.com>
> >
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