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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Norbert,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>It took me quite a while to find out what you meant by "<FONT color=#000000>The UPDF version I put to the web today"?  So I'm writing this note.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>First I went to the PWG web page:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><FONT color=#0000ff><A href="http://www.pwg.org/">http://www.pwg.org/</A></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><FONT color=#0000ff>which sent me to:</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><A href="http://www.pwg.org/updf/index.html">http://www.pwg.org/updf/index.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>The Documents link goes to version 0.51, which is two years old.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Then I tried the Related Links URLs and did find the DTDs and Sample XML files.  Perhaps, they could be given more prominence on the web page or renamed from "Related Links" to Current DTDs and Sample XML files", since they are the focus of the work, as I understand it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>However, I'm still unable to bring up the XML files using Outlook.  I get:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001> <TABLE width=400> <P style="FONT: 13pt/15pt verdana">The XML page cannot be displayed <P style="FONT: 8pt/11pt verdana">Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the <A target=_self href="javascript:location.reload()">Refresh</A> button, or try again later. <HR> <P style="FONT: bold 8pt/11pt verdana">Access is denied. </P> <P></P></P> <TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><FONT color=#0000ff>Then </FONT>I looked at <A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>and saw no files in that directory, but did find three folders:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Archive</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Current_Version</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>minutes</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Under Current_Version I found two folders:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>DTD</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>XML_Samples</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>by the dates on those files, I suspect that they are the ones that you also attached below.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>However, sending out such a long list of attachments is a problem for at least two reasons:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>a. its a lot of data for the poor traveling folks who pick up email over hotel phone lines</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>b. its a pain for those of us with fast connections to extract each of 15 files from our mail agents (I use Outlook).</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>A more user friendly approach would be to simply send out the two urls:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/DTD/">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/DTD/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/XML_Samples/">ftp://ftp.pwg.org</SPAN>/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/XML_Samples/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Also if you could also put them into a single .zip file in the parent directory with a date in the file name, say:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/current-version-010531.zip">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/upd/Current_Version/<FONT color=#0000ff>current-version-010531.zip</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>and also send that URL.  T</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>hen all of the files could be picked up in a single trip.  Also XML files compress by large factors with ZIP and its easy to extract one or a bunch of files from the ZIP archive.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>What do others think?</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Thanks,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001>Tom</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=743483220-04062001><SPAN class=743483220-04062001></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Norbert Schade [mailto:norbertschade@oaktech.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 31, 2001 14:57<BR><B>To:</B> UPD group<BR><B>Subject:</B> UPD> changes in latest version from today<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The UPDF version I put to the web today has a number of improvements.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We made the naming more consistent.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A dot is no more allowed within a name of an element or an attribute.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The dot will work as a separator when an element has to be specified by its complete or at least partial path like</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PrintCapabilities.Print_Features.DeviceResolutionList.DeviceResolution.HorizontalResolution.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some elements have got a prefix 'TBD_'. this indicates that the feature is not completely solved, under construction or it is just a reminder not to forget to work on that later. Your feedback on those features is appreciated, but it may change or even disappear during further development.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We have split the locale identifier in the locale dtd now. There is a language and a separate country entry now. This allows almost every dreamable combination for the last polar bear living in the jungle.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You will find that the sample data is much more consistent now, where we previously just threw in just something to show an entry. You may check the 'UI_String_xxx' references in name id attributes and the English locale as a sample.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards<BR>Norbert Schade<BR>Principle Software Engineer<BR>Host Software Group<BR>Oak Technology, Inc.<BR>10 Presidential Way<BR>Woburn, MA 01801<BR>USA<BR>Phone: 1-781-638-7614<BR>Fax: 1-781-638-7555<BR>email: <A href="mailto:norbertschade@oaktech.com">norbertschade@oaktech.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>