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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1528" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hi Stuart,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>I copied the WIMS list, so others could see my remarks and chime in.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>The significance of icMediaUsedMediaSizeName being DisplayString is</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>that it MUST be strict ASCII (it's a _keyword_ that follows the format in</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>PWG 5101.1, not a free form name - even a custom size name has a</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>format and MUST be strict ASCII).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>icMediaUsedMediaInfo is a description that makes '...SizeName' unique for </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>instances of different (but same size) media.  Because the IETF leaned</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>on us hard to make all future MIB descriptive strings be internationalized,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>it's of type SnmpAdminString (UTF-8) and localized.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Now - nothing prevents you from making the "localized" media info in</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Kyocera products be </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>of the form:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>  media-info = english-media-identifier ":" localized-description</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>So that your accounting applications use the invariant identifier and</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>save the localized-description (if at all) in a separate database field</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>that's informational.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Or you could cheat (I don't recommend this) and leave the value of</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>icGeneralNaturalLanguage empty and just support all descriptive</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>fields in US-English only (the default) - I _really_ don't recommend</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>this approach, because it's not very customer-friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hope this helps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>- Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=007543219-05072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839<BR>phone: +1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Stuart Rowley [mailto:Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> McDonald, Ira<BR><B>Subject:</B> Counters MIB questions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Ira,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I hope you had an enjoyable 4<SUP>th</SUP> of July weekend. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have a couple questions about the Counters spec and MIB regarding media used.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There are 3 objects used to describe the media size and type.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">icMediaUsedMediaSizeName DisplayString,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">icMediaUsedMediaInfo SnmpAdminString,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">icMediaUsedMediaName SnmpAdminString<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What is the significance of icMediaUsedMediaSizeName using DisplayString and the others using SnmpAdminString?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the MIB it lists all three as being localized, but it seems only icMediaUsedMediaName should be localized. I need icMediaUsedMediaSizeName and icMediaUsedMediaInfo to be used by our accounting apps to identify the size and type for billing purposes. This would be hard to achieve using localized strings. Our apps would need to read standardized names from these two objects. Am I missing something?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Stuart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Stuart Rowley</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Network Product Mgr.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kyocera Technology Development<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--<BR> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR> Checked by AVG Free Edition.<BR> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006<BR> </FONT> </P>