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Rick, you are right. prtConsoleOffTime = 0 means a light is "on" (and not blinking). Likewise, prtConsoleOnTime = 0 (or BOTH = 0) means the light is steady "off". I do think it may be valuable to promote these, applying this semantic. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%><Richard_Landau@Dell.com> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org 10/19/2006 01:39 PM <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td><wims@pwg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>WIMS> CIM> one queston about console lights</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Forgot to ask this today.  How does one tell remotely if a console light is turned on, e.g., some warning light?  The only method I can find is to look at the light times.  If OnTime is nz and OffTime is z, then the light is on, supposedly, I think; and v-v, if OnTime is z and OffTime is nz, thenthe light is off.  We didn't want these properties to be writable, as they were spec'ed in the MIB, because no one ever used them to blink the lights.  But they might be very useful to read if the controller manipulates them properly.  Anyone have any idea if controllers actually do that?  If so, do we want perhaps to promote these to A or still leave it up to the vendor as B? rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Arch, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682