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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <TITLE>What name for Covers?</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1561" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hi Rick,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>The Printer MIB did a bit of shabby modelling, because an Interlock</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>may protect a part (e.g., pinch roller) that is NOT a Cover (I've seen</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=513173017-20102006>MIB-walks of </SPAN><SPAN class=513173017-20102006>real </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>printers that did this).</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4> <DIV><BR>Locations in MediaPaths are often instrumented with </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Interlock </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>sensors, </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>although the thing being moved/removed isn't always a cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>So, what about 'prtCoverTable' maps to 'PrintInterlock(s)', but</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>with a good Description cause explaining the legacy Printer MIB</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>modelling, and ADDING an 'IsCover' boolean property </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>(defaults </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>to </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>'false' of course) to disambiguate the two cases?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>- Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=513173017-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839<BR>phone: +1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Richard_Landau@Dell.com [mailto:Richard_Landau@Dell.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 20, 2006 1:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> McDonald, Ira<BR><B>Cc:</B> wims@pwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: What name for Covers?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>Gee, I thought that Cover included Interlock and that they were already thoroughly intertwined a decade ago by the TC that you cited.  It's only the sensor that we care about, whether it's on a door or an internal component -- for instance, if there is a door without a sensor, it certainly would not appear in this group -- so I thought that interlock was the more general and inclusive term.  </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>---------</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>PrtCoverStatusTC ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION<BR>    -- This TC was extracted from prtCoverStatus in RFC 1759.<BR>    STATUS    current<BR>    DESCRIPTION<BR>        "Values for encoding the state of a particular cover or<BR>        access panel on the printer case or enclosure."<BR>    SYNTAX    INTEGER {<BR>                  other(1),<BR>                  coverOpen(3),<BR>                  coverClosed(4),<BR>                  interlockOpen(5),<BR>                  interlockClosed(6)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=638205716-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>                  }</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>---------</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>But if the group wants PrintDeviceCovers, hey, I'm easy.  Other opinions or suggestions?  </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006>rick</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=638205716-20102006></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 20, 2006 11:56<BR><B>To:</B> Landau, Richard<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'wims@pwg.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: What name for Covers?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Hi Rick,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>[copied WIMS list to make others aware of these issues]</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>A Cover is NOT an Interlock (in the Printer MIB) - the Interlock is just the</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>sensor and logic.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>Conflating Cover with Interlock will screw up the semantics of some widely</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>implemented existing values of 'PrtAlertCodeTC' as well.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>In the WIMS and Semantic Model/v2.0 schema Subunits.xsd, <FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>the classes</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>are simply </SPAN>C<SPAN class=973485116-20102006>over(s).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=973485116-20102006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>I dislike abandoning </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>Printer MIB terms - how about 'PrintDeviceCover(s)'?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006>- Ira</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=973485116-20102006></SPAN></FONT></FONT>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839<BR>phone: +1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Richard_Landau@Dell.com [mailto:Richard_Landau@Dell.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 20, 2006 12:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B> McDonald, Ira<BR><B>Subject:</B> What name for Covers?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial>I think that PrintCovers is a crummy name for a class.  Almost everyone who did not grow up with PrinterMIB would misunderstand the class until they read the description.  I suggest PrintInterlocks.  In the Projector & Display Management group, we are calling the comparable stuff the Interlock Group.  (If there isn't a sensor on the door, then we don't care about it.)  Seem reasonable to use PrintInterlock as a classname instead?</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial>rick</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial>----------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial>Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Arch, CTO Office</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial>+1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-09, Round Rock, TX 78682</FONT> </P><BR> <P>--<BR>No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<BR>Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006<BR></P></BODY></HTML> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--<BR> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR> Checked by AVG Free 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