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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3354" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>WinRM (and PowerShell) from Microsoft does indeed provide CLI access to CIM data using WS-Management.  I will probably use some WinRM or PowerShell scripts to debug the prototype.  However, I am sorry to report that this is not a reasonable management interface for system managers.  It is a very general facility, and very low level, at the level of Get and Set but using WS-Man instead of SNMP.  For programmers, for debugging use, yes.  For day-to-day management by IT personnel, no.  </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>A provider will do only that: provide data to the CIM Object Manager (CIMOM), which on Windows is WMI.  A user needs a management application that is tuned to the problem at hand.  To my knowledge, there is currently no application to manage printers using the new CIM classes, which are brand new.  I do not think the proposed project includes a management application with a user interface suitable for IT use.  That is another job.  </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>rick</DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of nchen@okidata.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 16:10 To: wims@pwg.org; glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com Subject: WIMS> documents on MS remote management that provides CLI and uses WS-Management </DIV> <DIV></DIV> All, Here is the link to the documents about Windows Remote Management (WinRM). http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa384426(VS.85).aspx It says: "You can use WinRM scripting objects, the WinRM command-line tool, or the Windows Remote Shell command line tool WinRS to obtain management data from local and remote computers that may have baseboard management controllers (BMCs). If the computer runs a Windows-based operating system version that includes WinRM, the management data is supplied by Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI)." Looking at the Remote Management Architecture, it seems to me that as long as the proxy server has a WinRM listener installed, and we provide CIM printer objects to the WMI plugin.  Then on Vista client, we can use the WinRM.cmd command line tool to request and see the collected management data. -Nancy --------------------------------------------------------------- Principal Engineer Solutions and Technology Oki Data Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 Phone: (856) 222-7006 Email: nchen@okidata.com</BODY></HTML>