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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3492" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } TT { FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>Ship it!</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>rick</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left>PS: No one else liked ISMS, eh?  I thought it was cute, where ISM = dogma, doctrine, theory, "a belief accepted as authoritative by some group," etc.  Oh, well.  </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left> </DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William A Wagner Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 17:01 To: wims@pwg.org Subject: RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for? </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I like "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics". Odd that we hadn’t thought of “Work…” before.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Any  objections?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Dave Whitehead Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:31 PM To: Ira McDonald Cc: Ira McDonald; Petrie, Glen; Harry Lewis; owner-wims@pwg.org; wims@pwg.org Subject: Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> How about "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics" -- that way we don't need to explain the missing "G." dhw David H. Whitehead Development Engineer Lexmark International, Inc. 859.825.4914 davidatlexmarkdotcom <o:p></o:p> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%" cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 40%; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top width="40%"> "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org <o:p></o:p> 01/05/09 04:21 PM <o:p></o:p></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 59%; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top width="59%"> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%" cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> To<o:p></o:p></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> "Harry Lewis" <harryl@us.ibm.com>, "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> <o:p></o:p></TD></TR> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> cc<o:p></o:p></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com>, wims@pwg.org <o:p></o:p></TD></TR> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> Subject<o:p></o:p></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <o:p> </o:p> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TT>Hi,</TT> <TT>So, "Working Group for Imaging Management Semantics (WIMS)"</TT> <TT>Bill is quite right that Services is not the correct scope.</TT> <TT>A precedent is IETF PWG (Printer Working Group, originally</TT> <TT>chartered for RFC 1179 and later for RFC 1759).</TT> <TT>Cheers,</TT> <TT>- Ira</TT> <TT>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)</TT> <TT>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG</TT> <TT>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc</TT> <TT>email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com</TT> <TT>winter:</TT> <TT>579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176</TT> <TT>734-944-0094</TT> <TT>summer:</TT> <TT>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839</TT> <TT>906-494-2434</TT> <TT>On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl@us.ibm.com> wrote:</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> So that would be "Working group for Imaging Management Services"?</TT> <TT>> (Semantics?) That'd be OK.</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Also, I'd have no problem retiring both PMP and WIMS and migrating into ISMS</TT> <TT>> or some other agreeable new name.</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Also, I'd have no problem just keeping WIMS as is and not getting too</TT> <TT>> concerned that everything in the bucket is not "Web based".</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Harry Lewis</TT> <TT>> Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards</TT> <TT>> Phone: 303-924-5337</TT> <TT>> e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com</TT> <TT>> infoprint.com</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> P Think before you print</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com></TT> <TT>> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> 01/05/2009 12:21 PM</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> To</TT> <TT>> <wims@pwg.org></TT> <TT>> cc</TT> <TT>> Subject</TT> <TT>> RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> I support W as  "Working group"</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> ________________________________</TT> <TT>> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of</TT> <TT>> Richard_Landau@Dell.com</TT> <TT>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:10 AM</TT> <TT>> To: wims@pwg.org</TT> <TT>> Subject: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Re: changing the name of the WIMS group to reflect its broader scope</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> If the goal is to retain the acronym WIMS, we must construct a suitable</TT> <TT>> backronym.  The problem is the W, since the absorbed PMP items are not</TT> <TT>> "Web-based."  The current charter draft suggests "Wide-scope."</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> A few minutes with a dictionary yielded some other possibilities.</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Interesting but rejected:</TT> <TT>> - Wagner's     (practical)</TT> <TT>> - Wonderful    (boastful)</TT> <TT>> - Whiz-bang   (flippant)</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Possible:</TT> <TT>> - Well-known</TT> <TT>> - Working group for, as in "Working group for Imaging Management Semantics."</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> So long as the W does not stand for Washington, or for any other meaning of</TT> <TT>> "W" recently related to Washington, it's okay.</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> Of course, we could always change the name slightly, since lots of</TT> <TT>> interesting words end in MS for Management Semantics.  For example, Imaging</TT> <TT>> Systems Management Semantics, or ISMS.  Has kind of a nice ring to it.</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> rick</TT> <TT>></TT> <TT>> ----------------------</TT> <TT>> Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office</TT> <TT>> +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682</TT> <o:p></o:p></DIV></BODY></HTML>