IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> Scott's Presentation for the BOF -Reply

Re: IPP> Scott's Presentation for the BOF -Reply

Alex Bochannek (abochann@cisco.com)
Wed, 04 Dec 96 11:44:04 PST

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I am against using HTTP
in the way you propose.

- You define a special port
- You define a special content-type
- You define use of a command subset

To me that means you have a different protocol. Why not write a two
page draft that defines the access type ipp:// and just run straight
IPP over a TCP session? Much easier (I think)

Alex.

> Roger,
>
> Thanks for the comments. I have made some of the suggested changes
> and have put a new version out called ipp-info2.(ppt, ps).
>
> For everyone else that is afraid they didn't have time to comment, feel
> free to make additional comments. For Roger's sake, I mostly wanted to
> add some pictures and some scenarios and get feedback on those as
> soon as possible. I agree that these are needed. What do you think of
> the approach I took?
>
> Also, Roger, one of the comments came from Alex:
>
> ------------------------------------
> What's the REAL benefit of using HTTP? I mean, while you use a Web
> browser you still need a helper app to give the user a nice
> frontend. What's the difference between this and simply using some
> generic TCP stream like SMTP has been doing for fifteen years now?
>
> The reason I bring this up is because a lot of network admins have
> been very criticial of the very poor design of the original HTTP and
> the uncontrollable resource requirements of Web browser. Someone is
> bound to ask this question.
>
> P.S.: While buzzword-compliance does not count as an answer, it
> certainly is accepted as a design criterium to ensure success of
> the project ;-)
>
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>
> Do we have a write up on this specific issue? Could you (Roger) try to
> craft an answer for this? I can't remember if the rational for HTTP is in
> the I-D anywhere.
>
> Scott
>