IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> Some notes from an IETF Area Director

Re: IPP> Some notes from an IETF Area Director

Alex Bochannek (abochann@cisco.com)
Mon, 06 Jan 97 01:21:56 PST

If you run an ISP, your people are not your people. By disguising one
protocol within another, you loose the ability to identify easily and
block when necessary.

I can see IPP being used quite nicely for denial of service attacks.

Alex.

> I was not referring to firewalls as a bad design. They are designed to
> protect the intranets against the outside attack. This makes them a
> necessity. What is bad is using firewalls not against the outsiders,
> rather against the people inside the firewall, enforcing email
> censorship, blocking outbound print jobs, etc.
>
> I just don't see the bulk of the market using firewalls against their
> own people.
>
> Babak
>
> >
> >babakj@MICROSOFT.com said:
> >> We are not in the busniess of developing software for organizations
> >> who think this way. We are targeting the bulk market. Such paranoid
> >> organizatoins need to buy custom software adapted to their special
> >> needs.
> >
> >If you mean by this that you regard firewalls as an aberration,
> >example of bad design, a totally unworkable solution in the
> >long run, and something we should ignore when designing real protocols,
> >then we are in complete agreement.
> >
> >Unfortunately paranoid organizations have a lot of buying power,
> >so not all people may be happy with that attitude.
> >Let's just make sure that if we mention firewalls at all, we
> >describe them correctly; I prefer to ignore them whenever I can.
> >
> > Harald A
> >
> >
> >