IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP>PRO revised agenda [some additional ideas]

Re: IPP>PRO revised agenda [some additional ideas]

Patrick Powell (papowell@dickory.sdsu.edu)
Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:58:18 -0800 (PST)

# To: Robert.Herriot@eng.sun.com (Robert Herriot)
# From: Tom Hastings <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com>
# Subject: Re: IPP>PRO revised agenda [some additional ideas]
# Cc: ipp@pwg.org
# Sender: ipp-owner@pwg.org
# Status: R

# I suggest that we start off by trying to agree on what the requirements
# are for the Protocol document.

# For example:

# 1. Map the tokens and semantics from the Model and Semantics document
# to a protocol.

I twitch every time I see the term 'protocol' used in this manner.
Most of the IETF world looks at protocols as things to be used for
data/network information transfer.

# 2. Select a transport protocol or specify a new one.

# 3. The protocol should be straightforward for the following environments
# to support:

Yes. This is VERY important.

# 4. The deployment of clients and servers supporting new versions of the
# protocol need not be done in lock step.

I do not understand this comment.

# 5. etc.

I would like to discuss unifying some of the efforts of the Protocol
and Model efforts, so that the limitations of existing/current transfer
protocols can be more explicitly examined. I have just been through a
'what if this is done? then we cannot use THAT protocol'
effort, and largely ended up with little progress in my own understanding
of the problems.

# A second agenda item would be to list the RFCs that are reference and/or
# background to the IPP protocol effort, especially for those of us who are
# not familiar with very many RFCs. I suggest that the protocol sub-group
# keep an every-green list of such RFCs. Such a growing list should contain:

# a. The complete title of the RFC
# b. The RFC number
# c. A sentence or two about what is in the RFC (maybe its Abstract?)
# d. Why this RFC is in this list: possible transport protocol, source for
# syntax, a good RFC to copy in form and presentation, etc.

# The best place for this list would be on the PWG IPP web page itself with
# hot links to the RFC FTP server for each listed RFC.

I agree. In addition I recommend that you also add the ietf proposals.

I would like to add an item - protocol implementation
and trial implementations of example (baseline) server which would gateway
IPP to LPR and SMB, a (Win32?) client and a UNIX client.

Patrick Powell