IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP>MOD document object problem for SendURI

Re: IPP>MOD document object problem for SendURI

Tom Hastings (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:27:14 PDT

I vote for number 2 as well (keep Send-URI but without being able to
query the document-uri attribute).

Adding a Send-URI operation in the future seems a much bigger step
than adding attributes in the future to handle per-document values.

We don't even mention the concept of registering operations
after the spec is finished, I believe.

Tom

At 23:53 09/23/97 PDT, Scott Isaacson wrote:
>I noticed the same problem in the editing. I vote for number 2.
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>Scott
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>>>> Ira Mcdonald x10962 <imcdonal@eso.mc.xerox.com> 09/20 9:08 AM >>>
>Hi Bob,
>
>I vote for your option #3 - dump Send-URI entirely from IPP 1.0.
>A little bit of document attributes is just as bad as lots.
>If we don't go with option #3, then we certainly won't get out
>'stable' IPP specs by the end-of-September to the IETF.
>
>Cheers,
>- Ira McDonald (outside consultant at Xerox)
>
>------------------------- Bob's note -----------------------
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>From: Robert.Herriot@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Herriot)
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>To: ipp@pwg.org
>Subject: IPP>MOD document object problem for SendURI
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>We made a decision to eliminate all document attributes because we didn't
>want
>to design the mechanism for returning one attribute per document for version
>1.0.
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>I agree with that decision. But now I have realized that SendURI has to
>send
>a separate document-URI for each Send-URI operation which means there is a
>separate value of document-URI for each document.
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>The following are possible solutions:
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> 1) bad idea: solve the multiple-document-attribute problem
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> 2) OK maybe: document-URI is an operation attribute that does
> not stick to the job object. That is, Get-Attributes does not
> return a document-URI created by a Send-URI operation.
> Get-Attributes could return a document-URI value set by
> Print-URI but it might seem strange that document-URI is
> available for Print-URI jobs but not Create-Job/ Send-URI jobs.
>
> 3) OK maybe: eliminate Send-URI in version 1.0, but keep Print-URI which
> doesn't have this problem.
>
>#3 is probably a little bit better than #2.
>
>Bob Herriot
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