IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> Delay of IPP ratification

Re: IPP> Delay of IPP ratification

Robert Herriot (Robert.Herriot@Eng.Sun.COM)
Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:08:39 -0800

Jay,

I cannot give you any more details at this time because I haven't thought
about it enough. At this time, I don't know whether XML is a great idea
or a terrible idea. But XML is an important enough emerging standard
that we should not dismiss it without examining what the IPP protocol would
look like in XML and what its benefits would be.

Because the time is short, we need to make a decision quickly. We
also need enough details from XML experts, such as those at Microsoft,
to make an informed decision.

Bob Herriot

> From jkm@underscore.com Fri Jan 9 14:06:25 1998
>
> Bob and Paul,
>
> Care to elucidate on the merits and applicability of XML to the IPP
> model? Any known/expected problems in mapping? Any particular
> benefits over alternative approaches?
>
> Perhaps most importantly, exactly *why* should XML even be
> considered in the first place?
>
> Bob says that "XML is becoming an important protocol." We can all
> think of lots of emerging protocols that may be viewed as important,
> but are they applicable to network printing? How and why is XML
> applicable to a network printing protocol?
>
> Please understand that I am not casting any kind of early vote
> against XML here. Just trying to figure out why XML has suddenly
> entered the fray.
>
> ...jay
>
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>
> Robert Herriot wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Paul that we should spend some time looking at XML before
> > we commit to the current protocol. XML is becoming an important protocol.
> >
> > Bob Herriot
> >
> > > From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Jan 9 10:42:58 1998
> > > From: Paul Moore <paulmo@microsoft.com>
> > > To: "'ipp@pwg.org'" <ipp@pwg.org>
> > > Subject: IPP> Delay of IPP ratification
> > > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:21:33 -0800
> > > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3)
> > > Sender: ipp-owner@pwg.org
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> > >
> > > This is a formal request that we delay the finalization of the IPP spec
> > > until we have looked at the possibility of using XML as the protocol format.
> > >
> > > I know this is revisiting an old issue but we need to make sure we do the
> > > right thing. When the current format was proposed there was no good method
> > > for representing structured data in an ASCII data stream. XML is now
> > > available and seem to be the coming wave. I also know that most of the new
> > > standards that will come out over the next year will be based around XML
> > > (and protocol specific HTTP commands). By ensuring that we are in the centre
> > > of these standards we will be able to leverage many common tools that will
> > > emerge to support and manage these protocols.
> > >
> > > There will definitely be down-sides so we need to debate this issue - not
> > > least the investment that some of us have already made in building using the
> > > current spec.
> > >
> > > I think that somebody from MS will be in Hawaii.
> > >
> > > Paul Moore
> > >
>