IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> MOD/PRO - simple proposal for providing

RE: IPP> MOD/PRO - simple proposal for providing

Carl-Uno Manros (carl@manros.com)
Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:00:11 -0800

As far as I remember, we said that we might revisit the subject for a later
version of IPP, possibly in combination with a new mapping onto e.g. HTTP NG,
at which time missing XML features will hopefully also be stable. Anybody can
speculate about what they would prefer to see in a future IPP version, for which
we do not even have a plan yet. In addition, this kind of decision is never
made in neither a PWG nor an IETF meeting; decisions are made by consensus
on the DL, in case somebody has missed that important piece of information.

There are certainly other possible solutions for the dictionary attribute
than using XML, please read Tom's latest proposal on how it can be done with
the current IPP tools for syntax and encoding.

Carl-Uno

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At 04:39 PM 4/1/98 -0800, Turner, Randy wrote: > >We did talk about future IPPv2 encodings and transports, but no formal >WG concensus was declared since it wouldn't have been appropriate when >we don't even have version 1.0 documents at "proposed" yet. > >Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Moore [SMTP:paulmo@microsoft.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 4:16 PM > To: 'imcdonal@eso.mc.xerox.com'; jkm@underscore.com > Cc: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: RE: IPP> MOD/PRO - simple proposal for providing >dictionary-like capability > > As I said below - this was an informal consensus. Everybody I >spoke to about > it said that they thought that we would have to do XML to handle >things like > dictionaries, etc. > > Yes it completely breaks compatability - this is why I raised >the issue as > strongly as I did. I still think that the Maui decision was >wrong (but that > is water under the bridge now). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: imcdonal@eso.mc.xerox.com >[SMTP:imcdonal@eso.mc.xerox.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 4:17 PM > > To: jkm@underscore.com; Paul Moore > > Cc: ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: Re: IPP> MOD/PRO - simple proposal for providing > > dictionary-like capability > > > > Hi Jay and Paul, > > > > Yes, I'm interested to hear more about the 'decision' to do > > IPPv2 on XML in Maui. It sure didn't widely penetrate the > > mailing list for the rest of us people. And it sure TOTALLY > > breaks backward compatibility. > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira McDonald (High North) > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > [Jay's note] > > From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Apr 1 15:37:41 1998 > > Return-Path: <ipp-owner@pwg.org> > > Received: from zombi (zombi.eso.mc.xerox.com) by >snorkel.eso.mc.xerox.com > > (4.1/XeroxClient-1.1) > > id AA19155; Wed, 1 Apr 98 15:37:40 EST > > Received: from alpha.xerox.com by zombi (4.1/SMI-4.1) > > id AA24661; Wed, 1 Apr 98 15:31:25 EST > > Received: from lists.underscore.com ([199.125.85.30]) by >alpha.xerox.com > > with SMTP id <52295(4)>; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:31:32 PST > > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by >lists.underscore.com > > (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16498 for ><imcdonal@eso.mc.xerox.com>; Wed, > > 1 Apr 1998 15:28:01 -0500 (EST) > > Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 1 Apr 1998 >15:20:22 -0500 > > Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com >(8.7.5/8.7.3) id > > PAA15724 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:20:09 -0500 >(EST) > > Message-Id: <3522A16D.757A81B1@underscore.com> > > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:19:57 PST > > From: Jay Martin <jkm@underscore.com> > > Organization: Underscore, Inc. > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > To: Paul Moore <paulmo@microsoft.com> > > Cc: ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: Re: IPP> MOD/PRO - simple proposal for providing >dictionary-like > > capability > > References: > > ><5CEA8663F24DD111A96100805FFE6587030BC41B@red-msg-51.dns.microsoft.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Sender: ipp-owner@pwg.org > > Status: R > > > > Paul, > > > > Sorry, but I wasn't able to attend the Maui meeting, so >perhaps > > you can clarify something about the perceptions of "IPP v2" > > for me. > > > > The way I read your message (below), IPP v2 will have a >totally > > different encoding than IPP v1 (ie, non-standard BER-like > > quasi-binary encoding vs. structured text). > > > > Is this correct? > > > > ...jay > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- JK Martin | Email: jkm@underscore.com >-- > > -- Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 >-- > > -- 41C Sagamore Park Road | Fax: (603) 889-2699 >-- > > -- Hudson, NH 03051-4915 | Web: >http://www.underscore.com -- > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >