P1394 Mail Archive: P1394> Registry for 1394 PWG Services

P1394 Mail Archive: P1394> Registry for 1394 PWG Services

P1394> Registry for 1394 PWG Services

Brian Batchelder (batchelder@ieee.org)
Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:38:17 -0800

What follows is a copy of the e-mail I recently sent to the IANA regarding the use of one of their lists for our service registry. To conserve e-mail space, I have not included the attachment, which was identical to the proposal I circulated via the reflector on November 30, 1999.

I will also post future e-mails between myself and IANA to the 1394PWG reflector.



Recently Josh Elliott of IANA and Alan Berkema of the 1394 Printer Working Group (PWG) exchanged e-mails regarding the establishment of an IANA registry for 1394 PWG services. After discussions within the 1394 PWG, it became apparent that we weren't actually looking for a new registry, but wanted to use an existing IANA registry. The registry that we would like to use is your "Protocol and Service Names" list.

Many of the devices our member companies will create for the 1394 bus will contain both the 1394 PWG transport protocol (known as PPDT) and an internet transport protocol, probably TCP. The devices' services will most likely be available over both protocols. Rather than maintain two registries, which could possibly become inconsistent, for these services we would prefer to have one registry. Since the "Protocol and Service Names" list already exists and contains some of the services we might support, we would prefer to use it as our one registry.

I have attached our specification's proposed annex that describes the process for adding services to the list. Is the documented process acceptable to IANA?

Please contact me with any questions. Following you will find the thread of discussion between Josh and Alan.

Thank you,

Brian Batchelder

Brian Batchelder - mailto:batchelder@ieee.org
IEEE 1212r Chair, IEEE 1284.4 Editor, 1394 Printer Working Group

From: "BERKEMA,ALAN C (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <alan_berkema@am.exch.hp.com>
To: "'1394 PWG'" <P1394@pwg.org>
Subject: P1394> FW: 1394 PWG Services
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:09:57 -0600

Looks like IANA prefers that we use the IEEE?
Sounds like they will do it though.

-----Original Message-----
From: IANA [mailto:iana@ISI.EDU]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 2:34 PM
To: 'BERKEMA,ALAN C (HP-Roseville,ex1)'
Cc: 'iana'
Subject: RE: 1394 PWG Services

Normally, the IEEE keeps these types of registries. It seems out of place
in the IANA registries, but if necessary IANA will house the registry.


Josh Elliott, Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: BERKEMA,ALAN C (HP-Roseville,ex1)
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:46 PM
To: 'iana@iana.org'
Subject: RE: 1394 PWG Services


The Printer Working Group is an industry consortium.
Some of our work goes to the IEEE and some like IPP, Internet
Printing Protocol has gone to the IETF.

The 1394 PWG spec. will go to IEEE.
We are not directly associated with the IETF IP1394 group, although
some of us participate in both.

Will you still keep the registry if we really are not an IETF RFC or


-----Original Message-----
From: IANA [mailto:iana@ISI.EDU]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:29 AM
To: 'Alan Berkema'
Cc: 'iana'
Subject: RE: 1394 PWG Services

We can keep the registry, however, most of the registries we keep are
products of the IETF.

Is this part of the IP over IEEE 1394 working group, or are your only with

Please let us know.

Thank you.


-----Original Message-----
From: aberkema@hphci3.rose.hp.com [mailto:aberkema@hphci3.rose.hp.com]On
Behalf Of Alan Berkema
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:30 PM
To: iana@iana.org; alan_berkema@hp.com
Subject: 1394 PWG Services


My name is Alan Berkema and I am the Vice Chair of the 1394 Printer
Working Group.
In October we will submit A Project Autorization Request to the IEEE in
order to publish a standard
protocol for image devices over IEEE 1394. Our specification is called
the Peer to Peer Data Transport.
Part of the specification requires the use of ASCII strings that
decscribe image "services". Our working
group suggested that IANA would be a good place to register these
service names.
Can IANA help?

Alan Berkema
Engineer Scientist
Hewlett Packard MS# 5558
Network Peripheral Solutions Division
8000 Foothills Blvd
Roseville California
916 785-5605
916 785-1968 (fax)