PMP Mail Archive: RE: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

RE: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

From: McDonald, Ira (imcdonald@sharplabs.com)
Date: Tue Jun 06 2006 - 14:03:28 EDT

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    Hi,
     
    My mistake about (3) below - of course prtAlertDescription can only
    discriminate between multiple subunits for _humans_. A proper MIB
    is required (which is by the way named "Imaging System MIB", not
    "MFP MIB") - the term "MFP" is used in WIMS/1.0 and the SM/2.0
    update work only informatively - the authoritative term is "Imaging
    System" (containing Agent, Manager, Services, Subunits, etc).
     
    Cheers,
    - Ira
     

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
    phone: +1-906-494-2434
    email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: pmp-owner@pwg.org [mailto:pmp-owner@pwg.org]On Behalf Of Bergman, Ron
    Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:52 PM
    To: PMP@pwg.org
    Subject: FW: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stuart Rowley [mailto:Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com]
    Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:56 PM
    To: Bergman, Ron
    Subject: RE: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

    Hi Ron,

     

    Will you send your response to the PMP list, so others may see your answers?

     

    I am thinking it is really weird to have the scanner covers, input, and
    media path defined in the print mib and other components defined in the MFP
    mib...

     

    I suppose the description field could be used as a quick and dirty
    alternative to implementing the MFP mib. I would be interested in what Ira
    has to say.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Stuart

     

       _____

    From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com]
    Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:49 PM
    To: Stuart Rowley
    Subject: RE: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

     

    Hi Stuart,

     

    1) I do recall discussing this in the conference, but left it out of my
    notes. Media path should not be a Scan Group. I will remove in the next
    revision.

     

    2) That is correct. So the covers table (or group) includes the Printer,
    Sacn Device, and Fax Device. Same for the other common groups.

     

    3) Ira has said that this would be covered by the description field in the
    alert table. I disagree and believe a MIB is necessary to properly define.
    Do you agree?

     

    Hope this helps.

     

        Regards,

        Ron

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stuart Rowley [mailto:Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com]
    Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:42 PM
    To: Bergman, Ron; pmp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: PMP> MFP Alerts Questions

    Hi Ron,

     

    I have a few questions about the MFP Alerts draft.

     

    1. If there are no groups for scanDeviceCover or scanDeviceInput, why is
    there a group for scanDeviceMediaPath?

     

    2. If, for example, the scanner document feeder cover was open, then the
    prtAlertTable entry would include prtAlertGroup = 6 (Cover), but then the
    prtAlertGroupIndex should point to a cover in the prtCover table. So now I
    have scan device covers implemented in the printer MIB, but other scan
    device subunits in the MFP MIB?

     

    3. In the examples in section 10.1.3 for the scanDeviceScanner group there
    is Lamp Missing, subunitMissing(9) / subunitRemoved(26). What if I have
    multiple subunits that could be missing? There is no way to tell without
    using prtAlertGroupIndex to point to a table entry in the MFP MIB?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Stuart

     

    Stuart Rowley

    Kyocera Technology Development

     

       _____

    From: pmp-owner@pwg.org [mailto:pmp-owner@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Bergman, Ron
    Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:49 AM
    To: pmp@pwg.org
    Subject: PMP> MFP Alerts Teleconference Scheduled for June 8

     

    The next teleconference for MFP Alerts is scheduled for June 8, 2006 at
    11:00 AM EDT (8:00 AM PDT).

    Agenda:
         1. Review previous meeting minutes
         2. Continue review of the draft Alert Groups document
         3. Start review of the Imaging System MIB

    The latest version of the Alert Groups document is at:

            HYPERLINK
    "ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-mfp-alert-groups10-20060601.pdf"ftp://f
    tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-mfp-alert-groups10-20060601.pdf

    Meeting access:
        1-866-365-4406
        Passcode: 2635888#

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