PWG-IPP Mail Archive: RE: ADM - IPP Priorities

RE: ADM - IPP Priorities

From: kugler@us.ibm.com
Date: Tue Jun 20 2000 - 14:59:39 EDT

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    Call me a simpleton, but I don't understand why Qualdocs has to stand in
    the way of the IPP "Killer App": Fax Replacement. I think IPP/TLS with
    client authentication (using client-side certificates) is at least an 80%
    solution to the fax replacement problem.

    Put a SSL or TLS enabled IPP Printer on the Internet and configure it to
    accept job submissions from anyone with a verifiable client-side
    certificate. Have the Printer generate a cover page for each job, listing
    the contents of the senders's X.509 certificate. Now you have a Printer
    that is accessible publicly, but not anonymously. (Or you could restrict
    access by organization or whatever.)

    The submitter will need a certificate, but an individual can obtain one
    from a CA like Verisign for about $20/year. This amount might be saved in
    long-distance charges. (Alternatively, an enterprise can set up its own
    CA. Many already have one for other reasons.) The submitter will also
    need a secure IPP client, but it takes equipment or software to send faxes,
    too.

    Overall, cheaper, better, and more secure than fax. No need to wait for
    QUALDOCS.

              -Carl

    Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS@pwg.org on 06/20/2000 11:46:17 AM

    Sent by: owner-pwg-ipp@pwg.org

    To: "Wagner,William" <bwagner@digprod.com>
    cc: cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com, pwg-ipp@pwg.org,
          Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com
    Subject: RE: ADM - IPP Priorities

    Perhaps a vote for Qualdocs is a vote for IPP client. Then, within the
    client discussion there are two separate paths (Qualdocs - i.e. TIFF-FX,
    Coneg and "Full Featured" - i.e. Fonts, UPDF, kitchen sink...) ?? Valid
    way of resolving this?

    Harry Lewis
    IBM Printing Systems

    "Wagner,William" <bwagner@digprod.com>
    Sent by: owner-pwg-ipp@pwg.org
    06/20/2000 10:55 AM

            To: "'Stuart Rowley'" <Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com>,
    "'Manros, Carl-Uno B'"
    <cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com>
            cc: pwg-ipp@pwg.org
            Subject: RE: ADM - IPP Priorities

    I fully agree with Stuart. Qualdocs was not on the original list. I, for
    one, responded before Qualdocs was introduced. It is not clear who is
    considering qualdocs and who is not considering it. Finally, despite the
    appreciated explanations, I am still uncertain what position the PWG has
    with respect to qualdocs, which as far as I see, is still not a chartered
    IETF working group. If we are an unofficial advisory body to a
    non-existent
    working group, I think we must consider what our efforts would consist of
    before we consider priorities. If we have a real opportunity to help
    advance
    the idea of IPP for scanning/fax (by whatever name), I would put the
    importance just below a full featured client (which may be considered to
    include driver and font handling).

    William A. Wagner (Bill Wagner)
    Director of Technology
    Imaging Division
    NETsilicon, Inc.
    781-398-4588

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stuart Rowley [mailto:Stuart.Rowley@ktd-kyocera.com]
    Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:03 PM
    To: 'Manros, Carl-Uno B'
    Cc: pwg-ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: ADM - IPP Priorities

    In under the wire...

    My rankings:

    7 Print Driver Download
    7 Open Source IPP Client
    3 Resource Object
    3 Set 2 Operations
    1 Production Printing Attributes
    0 Set 3 Operations
    0 Document & Page Exceptions

    Since Qualdocs was not included in the original vote request and many did
    not include it in their vote, I also omitted it. I suggest polling the
    participants at the next meeting to gauge interest in Qualdocs or redoing
    the email vote with Qualdocs as one of the defined candidates rather than
    as
    a write-in.

    Stuart
    Kyocera Technology Development



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