Semantic Model Mail Archive: SM> RE: [printing-cap] Capabili

Semantic Model Mail Archive: SM> RE: [printing-cap] Capabili

SM> RE: [printing-cap] Capabilities API: Device Object [How about a M edia Object]

From: Hastings, Tom N (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Date: Mon Sep 23 2002 - 22:50:02 EDT

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    Michael wrote:

    " > ...
    > So I think that Pete Zannucci is suggesting that we just invent some
    > simple IPP extension attributes to get us the imaging width for the
    > various media sizes. Couldn't that extension be a member attribute
    > of the "media-col" attribute somehow?

    We already have the media dimensions, but we need the printable
    margins, which *could* be enumerated as part of the media-col
    attribute but which also often depend on the resolution, color
    mode, input source, etc., and not just the media size."

    For UPnPv1 in the Enhanced Printing Service we added a GetMargins operation.
    It has input of the media specification and the output was four integers
    which were the width of each margin that couldn't be imaged in: Top, Right,
    Bottom, and Left. This is the beginning of the Media object with an
    operation to Get-Media-Attributes. In UPnPv1, only the four margins could
    be queried.

    Handling the interactions of margin size with resolution, color mode, input
    source, etc. could be taken care of if the Get-Media-Attributes allowed the
    job context attributes to be supplied as well.

    How about adding a member attribute to the "media-col":

    "media-margin-sizes" (1setOf integer)

    Four integers specifying the size of the top, right, bottom, and left
    margins measured in hundredths of a millimeter from the nearest edge of the
    medium. From these numbers the size of the printable area can be
    determined. A zero value indicates that the printable area coincides with
    the edge of the physical medium. All four values MUST be present.

    I think it is simpler to make it a sequence of 4 integers. Alternatively,
    we could make the member attribute a collection with 4 member attributes.
    But UPnP did it with four integers.

    For the PWG Semantic Model, we'd have MediaMarginSize.

    Then we'd need to add the Media object along with query operations, like
    Get-Media-Attributes and Get-Media which return requested member attributes
    of the Media objects supported. Get-Media-Attributes takes a media name and
    job context attributes. Get-Media would also take job context attributes.

    Comments?

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Michael Sweet [mailto:mike@easysw.com]
    Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 11:33
    To: printing-cap@freestandards.org
    Subject: Re: [printing-cap] Capabilities API: Device Object

    Hastings, Tom N wrote:
    > ...
    > However, the real question is: Does the Printer MIB provide the
    > device imaging parameters that Drivers need in order to produce a PDL
    > page that Pete Zannucci is after?

    IIRC, the Printer MIB is missing the needed imageable area
    information (margins).

    > ...
    > So I think that Pete Zannucci is suggesting that we just invent some
    > simple IPP extension attributes to get us the imaging width for the
    > various media sizes. Couldn't that extension be a member attribute
    > of the "media-col" attribute somehow?

    We already have the media dimensions, but we need the printable
    margins, which *could* be enumerated as part of the media-col
    attribute but which also often depend on the resolution, color
    mode, input source, etc., and not just the media size.

    -- 
    ______________________________________________________________________
    Michael Sweet, Easy Software Products                  mike@easysw.com
    Printing Software for UNIX                       http://www.easysw.com
    

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