Semantic Model Mail Archive: SM> Re: IPP> "-actual&q

Semantic Model Mail Archive: SM> Re: IPP> "-actual&q

SM> Re: IPP> "-actual" containment issue

From: Dennis Carney (dcarney@us.ibm.com)
Date: Fri Oct 25 2002 - 10:33:16 EDT

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    Peter,

    Some thoughts:
    1) In IPP, I was thinking it would be best if the "-actual" attributes are
    simply "normal" Job Description attributes. Then they can be queried in
    the same way, and follow the same conventions, as any other Job Description
    attributes.
    In the Semantic Model, you are proposing that they should instead be a new
    group: that seems to make sense in the Semantic Model. However, I think I
    would have preferred, at least initially, that the JobProcessingActual
    elements *act* the same as the JobDescription elements, and the
    DocumentProcessingActual elements act the same as the DocumentDescription
    elements. In that case, JobProcessingActual would go under Job and
    DocumentProcessingActual would go under Document.

    2) If we *did* go with your idea, what is the advantage to putting
    "JobProcessingActual" and "DocumentProcessingActual" under a
    "ProcessingActual" entry, rather than just putting them directly under Job?

    Dennis

                                                                                                                                                       
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    Dennis,

    Attached is a diagram showing how the "-actual" objects could be
    structured.
    It puts the "ProcessingActual" elements in the Job. The "ProcessingActual"
    contains "JobProcessingActual" and a multivalued
    "DocumentProcessingActual".
    "ProcessingActual" identifies its Printer and Job. Since there can be
    multiple Documents, the "DocumentProcessingActual" identifies its
    associated
    Document.

    Since the Job is the active entity is it appropriate to carry the Job
    "Receipt"(i.e. "-actual") information there?

    Pete

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dennis Carney [mailto:dcarney@us.ibm.com]
    Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:09 PM
    To: Zehler, Peter
    Subject: Re: IPP> RE: "-actual" containment issue

    Peter,

    Sounds good.

    Dennis

                          "Zehler, Peter"

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                          owner-ipp@pwg.org Subject: IPP> RE: "-actual"
    containment issue

                          10/24/02 09:02 AM

    Dennis,
    I believe that new groups should be created for "-actual" just as there are
    groups for "supported" and "default". The "DocumentProcessingActual" group
    should exist in both the Job and Document. The "JobProcessingActual"
    should
    exist only in the Job. This would parallel the processing elements nicely.
    Pete

                                                     Peter Zehler
                                                     XEROX
                                                     Xerox Architecture Center
                                                     Email:
    PZehler@crt.xerox.com
                                                     Voice: (585) 265-8755
                                                     FAX: (585) 265-8871
                                                     US Mail: Peter Zehler
                                                                         Xerox
    Corp.
                                                                         800
    Phillips Rd.
                                                                         M/S
    128-30E

    Webster NY, 14580-9701

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