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<div>I hadn't thought of that. If 3MF Consortium continues to host their own revisions we can still reference those. But if they withdraw those from being available freely, and instead point users at the ISO standard, then we may have to do that.</div>
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<div>Mike, could you reach out to 3MF Consortium about this?</div>
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<div>On Jun 12, 2025, at 2:49 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>This ISO/IEC joint spec won't ever become freely available. ISO uses the same system as IEEE does</div>
<div>(w/ exception of IEEE 802 series) - industries have to buy out the copyright. Remember that IEEE</div>
<div>2600 series cost printer manufacturers $100,000 in 2009 to buy out the copyright - not going to happen</div>
<div>w/ the 3MF spec.</div>
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<div>Effectively, 3MF is now off the table to consider adding as a requirement or recommendation in any</div>
<div>PWG spec.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><i><font size="1">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)</font></i></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><i><font size="1">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 3:59 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via 3d-printing <<a href="mailto:3d-printing@pwg.org">3d-printing@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>The site is asking me to pay 43 Swiss Francs so it isn't freely available currently...
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Hopefully the specs will remain freely available, we don't need another paywalled 3D standard...<br>
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> On Jun 12, 2025, at 1:42 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via 3d-printing <<a href="mailto:3d-printing@pwg.org" target="_blank">3d-printing@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> For those of you who are like me who were unaware that this was underway, 3MF has become an ISO standard.<br>
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