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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Well, here are what I see differences
between 2. & 3.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2. Printing using a service hosted over
the Internet;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">=> the print service may or may not
be provided by a Cloud Computing infrastructure.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">=> the print service does not need
to worry about metered, shared/virtualized across all tenants if not part
of Cloud Computing infrastructure.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">=> the print service provided must
provide metering for on-demand usage, which can be shared/virtualized across
all tenants on the Cloud Computing infrastructure.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Nancy</font>
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<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"William Wagner"
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: cloud-bounces@pwg.org</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">07/28/2010 03:03 PM</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Well yes, they are all pretty open ended at this point.
If someone would<br>
like to propose a sufficiently inclusive but bounded statement, please
do.<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>And, at least in my mind, 2 & 3 are not the same.
Despite the impression<br>
given in some advertisements, it appears that Cloud Computing will be used<br>
very much in non-mobile enterprise environments. Therefore, it might be
that<br>
the printing aspect may not use the internet at all, although it may be<br>
affected by the interaction over the internet.<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Bill Wagner<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Fenelon [mailto:mfenelon@microsoft.com]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:01 PM<br>
To: Ira McDonald; William Wagner<br>
Cc: cloud@pwg.org<br>
Subject: RE: [Cloud] Hello!<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>And<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>"3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing"<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>is somehow not open-ended?<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I would argue that points 2 and 3 are really the same
thing just said<br>
differently.<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Mike Fenelon<br>
Microsoft<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
Ira<br>
McDonald<br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:53 AM<br>
To: William Wagner; Ira McDonald<br>
Cc: cloud@pwg.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Cloud] Hello!<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Hi,<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I suggest that the phrase Cloud Printing (on this
mailing list anyway) be<br>
restricted to only "3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing".<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Any of the other definitions brelow are too open-ended
for sensible<br>
requirements or focused use cases.<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair
- Linux Foundation Open<br>
Printing WG Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP &<br>
Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<br>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc<br>
mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com<br>
winter:</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br>
734-944-0094</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>summer:<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
906-494-2434</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size=2>On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner@comcast.net><br>
wrote:<br>
> I see the mailing list is up, but there appear to have been no<br>
> messages posted yet so, by way of testing the list and of greeting<br>
> those of you that have signed up, I sent this "Hello" and
solicit your<br>
comments.<br>
><br>
> I think a nice place to start is to consider what Cloud Printing<br>
> encompasses (as distinguished from Google's CloudPrint, which is more<br>
> clearly defined)<br>
><br>
> From present use, it may be interpreted to mean:<br>
><br>
> 1. Printing over the Internet;<br>
><br>
> 2. Printing using a service hosted over the
Internet;<br>
><br>
> 3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing;<br>
><br>
> 4. Any sort of Mobile Printing.<br>
><br>
><br>
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> Opinions? (or, if you are so inclined, Facts?)<br>
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> Thanks, Bill Wagner<br>
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