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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>NIST is a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> agency and, as so, work products
are not copyrighted (I believe by law). In fact their top page on cloud
computing has the following statement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>“This
material is public domain although attribution to NIST is requested. It may be
freely duplicated and translated.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><!-- RIGHTCOL ENDS HERE -->So maybe we
should ask a different question. Do we want to (very) tightly align
our definition with content from NIST? I vote yes because it shows coherence/alignment/???
with existing or other organization. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Note that the NIST definition and the
one I propose are very high level and interpretation for “Imaging”
is what is are address.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>p.s. If I can find the contact
information I will send a note.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Petrie, Glen <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 15, 2011 12:45
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen; Michael Sweet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST
cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Sorry Mike, I skipped over the
part where you like the substance. So I will send a note NIST
folks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 15, 2011 12:41
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Michael Sweet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST
cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Your right about the
“copying” but that can be addressed at a later date. For the
moment; is this the type of definition that was intended? If not, can you
or others suggest a couple to sentence on a definition?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I understand your point on
‘Imaging’ versus ‘Printing/Printer’; but can we put
together a Print/Printing first at then see how to scope it for Imaging?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet
[mailto:msweet@apple.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 15, 2011 12:15
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST
cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>While I like the substance of the definition, I am uneasy about
copying their words like this - it would be good to contact the authors to get
their written permission so that we credit them appropriately in the cloud
model spec.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, since we *are* doing Cloud Imaging, we probably want the
definition to use Cloud Imaging instead of Cloud Printing and Imaging Device
instead of Printer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Based on the article referenced below I
modified in an attempt to create a definition for cloud printing. I
thought it could be reviewed to see if could be useful definition.
In most cases, I literal changed “computing” to
“printing” (or printer). I also added a few print related
items.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><a
href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Ira McDonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a>;
Ira McDonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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bold'>Brian Smithson</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><<a
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Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM<br>
Subject: NIST cloud defs<br>
To: Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br>
To share at the meeting, if it's useful:<br>
<a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc"
target="_blank">http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc</a><br>
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Advanced Customer Technologies<br>
Ricoh Americas Corporation<br>
<a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:%28408%29346-4435">(408)346-4435</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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