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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Thanks for the update. I was
reviewing the diagram again and I had noted there was no actual print entity “in
the cloud”; that is, as an SAAS in cloud terminology; so adding the Cloud
Print Service at least provides a cloud print SAAS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Some more discussion ----------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I am still having a problem with the use
of a Cloud Print Manager (in the printer) concept (an the name) in the general
context of being a cloud citizen and with associating a User with an individual
Print Service (Printers). That is, it is not modeled from User’s,
use-case or Cloud Provider developers’ point of view. As currently defined,
the current Cloud Print Manager is an artifact of a particular implementation
(like DocuPrint; maybe even CUPS) for a fan out with a single controller (Print
Servcie?); from a reference model or architecture point of view it should not
matter if there is such an entity providing this function. This means
your simple diagram reduces to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service <--->
Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>With “”””””maybe”””””
the Printer = [ Cloud Print Manager <---> Printer(s) ] as seen from
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Actually, I see no reason to add the Print qualifier to the Provider;
that is,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service <--->
Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>This model states that a Client, as a
proxy for the User, can access a Print Service, of the User’s Cloud
Provider, to print to a User’s register print device. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>This model can be used to represent
several different solutions or implementations:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The
“Cloud Provider” is Print Cloud (like HP’s or Epson’s
or)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service <--->
Printer</span></font><font color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:
Cambria;color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>A
good and bad model – requires other Cloud Solution to federate with
Print Cloud Provider. This would be a big development effort for
print vendors. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Cloud
Print Services are integrated into a Cloud Provider like Google Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service <--->
Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Again,
good and bad. Good for print vendor in that the Cloud
Provider manages Print Service; bad for the same reason.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The
Cloud Print Service is a “mini-cloud” or a “plug-in
cloud” (but still in the Cloud) that is callable by a Cloud
Provider. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Client <---> \ \ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> \
\<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> \ Cloud Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Where there is cloud around both Cloud Print and Cloud
Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Yes,
this looks like model in the current specification but with some slight
differences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>i.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The Cloud Print Services are in the
cloud; thus, they are cloud SAAS <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Yes, the
Print Service could be in the physical printer but virtually linked (“registered”)
in the Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>ii.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>A printer is associated with a single Cloud
Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>>From the User’s
and the Cloud Provider’s point-of-view, one Print Service is associated
with one Printer. The User and Cloud Provider developers never know
about fan-out, fin-in, fan-up, fan-down or any kind of fan; they know there an associated
Print Services for a specific Printer. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level5 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Internally,
an individual “Print Service” can support 2, 700,039 Printers; that
is something the print vendor does as part of their implementation
detail. It will not affect the API’s the Cloud Provider
developers uses to print to the printer. And has nothing to do with the
PWG Cloud Print specification.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>>From the User’s
and the Cloud Provider’s point-of-view, one Print Service (associated
with one Printer) has its own queue. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level5 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>If a print
vendor wants to have individual queues (the “bucket” of Print Jobs)
for each printer or have one giant queue (a big “bucket”) that individual
printers pull jobs from, this again, is a print vendor implementation detail. And
has nothing to do with the PWG Cloud Print specification.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>iii.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>From the Cloud Provider’s
point-of-view, the above definitions makes all Cloud Print Service interfaces
look the same; that it,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>An individual
Printer is registered and has an associated a single Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The Cloud
Provider only talks to the Printer’s Print Service for all APIs and
actions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Print Jobs
are submitted to the Print Service for the target printer (no matter how the
queue is implemented)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l3 level3 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>iv.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Thus, the goal of the PWG Cloud activity
is to define the API’s and data for the Cloud Provider to/from a Cloud
Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level4 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I know –
use IPP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level5 lfo7'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I don’t
think IPP will be used by everyone. (Who is using it now for Cloud?)
What “will be used” is the PWG:PJT, which does not require
IPP to be useful. PWG:PJT make federation of the Print Jobs very
simple. In general PWG:PJT is a perfect candidate for cloud print. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So the final model is something like<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider |-------
a Directory/Registry of Vendor Print Clouds<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Client <---> \ \
< -------------------- register Printers (and its Print Service) to a User <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> \
\<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> \
Vendor M Print Cloud \
Vendor N Print Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Print
Service <---> Printer Print
Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet
[mailto:msweet@apple.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 06, 2012 9:00
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Peter Zehler; Ira Mcdonald;
ipp@pwg.org; cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IPP] Where is the
Cloud Print Manager in the PWG: Cloud Model</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>[Adding <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a> since this is
a cloud discussion]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In the original BOF-generated functional model, the Cloud Print Manager
is either located in the Printer or attached to the Printer (e.g. in the local
print server). The Cloud Print Manager manages communications between the
lower-level printer interface and the Cloud Print Provider.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Based on our last telecon, we have introduced a Cloud Print Service
into the model which is the service in/under the Cloud Print Provider (which
acts as a System Control Service in the Semantic Model sense) that manages the jobs/queue
in the cloud for the Cloud Print Manager. The rough ASCII art diagram in
my mind looks like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Cloud Print Manager <---> Printer(s)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thus, Clients and Cloud Print Managers talk directly to the Cloud Print
Provider and corresponding Cloud Print Service, but never directly to each
other, and only the Cloud Print Manager actually talks directly with the
Printer(s) (physical or logical) it is registering/sharing with the Cloud Print
Provider/Service.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>There can potentially be multiple logical or physical printers behind
the Cloud Print Manager (think traditional fan-out configurations and
reprographic services) and those printers *may* be addressable using the IPP/SM
output device attributes/elements, but there is only a single Cloud Print
Service per Cloud Print Manager and to the Client it will appear to be a single
"queue" with one or more output devices associated with it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Apr 6, 2012, at 8:34 AM, "Petrie, Glen" <<a
href="mailto:glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com">glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Cambria'>Ira, Pete,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Cambria'>I believe it was stated in the last conference call that
the Cloud Print Manager in the cloud model diagram “is not in the
cloud”. Is this true? If so, where is it
“located”? <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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