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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div>WSDL V2.0 adds HTTP verbs to the specification and *could* be used to describe a REST service, although I think WSDL is still far too verbose for what we need.<div><br></div><div>There's also WADL (developed at Sun), which is much easier to write than WSDL.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally, I think we would get more traction with developers if we focus as much attention on REST as any other definition.</div><div><br></div><div>I think there are at least 3 reasons I can see to focus on a REST/JSON approach:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Seems to work for Google, but more to the point, some cloud print implementations may have a "connector" or interface to Google Cloud Print, which is REST/JSON based</div><div><br></div><div>2. There are other APIs that are primarily REST-based that will probably be needed by cloud print modules, such as OpenID and OAUTH 2, and these implementations can just make use of the same RPC facilities</div><div><br></div><div>3. It's easier to implement REST than SOAP, and we don't need all the SOAP baggage to realize our services.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Randy,<div><br></div><div>I believe the resistance to a normative REST implementation was due to the issues common in interoperability between REST implementations (no schema that defines them, they are "informal"...)<br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Randy Turner <<a href="mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com">rturner@amalfisystems.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><base href="x-msg://69/"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div>I guess I overlooked this in my previous review of this document, but the charter uses the phrase "informative REST" -- It would have been nice to make the REST mapping the primary, and the soap binding secondary, as I believe this would make implementation and proliferation of our cloud imaging solution more likely.<div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 8:59 AM, "William A Wagner" <<a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net">wamwagner@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; 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