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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There will be no Cloud Concall today &nbsp;because Michael will be unable to attend. The next Cloud Conference call will be 24 March,. Meanwhile, please review the current draft and the issues &nbsp;listed below. Email comment is solicited.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William A Wagner [mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'cloud@pwg.org'<br><b>Cc:</b> ipp@pwg.org; Ron Nevo<br><b>Subject:</b> Updated Cloud Model Draft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>An Updated draft to the Cloud Imaging Model is posted at :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305-rl.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305-rl.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20140305.docx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>( also may be retrieved at http:// addresses)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Although (we hope) that this document is nearing prototype status, there are several question that have arisen, or that I have, that should be addressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There is a requirement that the &nbsp;Cloud Imaging System maintain a log in the format of&nbsp; the PWG Common Log Format.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does the Cloud System retain the log or do the individual Cloud Services?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoCommentText style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>Are the job events and parameters in the PWG Common Log Format Spec sufficient for a Cloud Service/System?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It was requested that DocumentFormatAccepted and &nbsp;CompressionAccepted be added as optional elements to the FetchDocument operation. The terms are derived from IPP and do not appear in the Semantic Model. It is understood that these are &#8220;preferred&#8221; values, not supported values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Should &#8220;preferred&#8221; values be added to the Semantic Model?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The model requires that the Proxy communicate the significant elements and values of a local service (Accessible Element Set) to the corresponding Cloud Service and update them as necessary. Therefore preferred as well as supported values would be known to the Cloud Service. Why should they be included in specific FetchDocument requests? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Or do we have a misunderstanding or disagreement with respect to communicating the Accessible Element Set of Local Service capabilities and description elements to the Cloud Service?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The Model description should refer to elements &nbsp;in the Semantic Model, not IPP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Should the Cloud Model explicitly identify Semantic Model elements to be included in Operations Requests and Responses? This may require defining new elements for inclusion in SM3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is it necessary/desirable to ensure inclusion of elements corresponding to all IPP SIX attributes in IPP versions of the operations? (not include a mapping in the document, but certainly generating one in a worksheet)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It was requested that the GetJobElements operation be added to the Proxy/Cloud interface, presumably to allow the Proxy to maintain a Job Log. Although the intent of &nbsp;this operation is that same as for the GetJobElements operation in the Client-Cloud interface, the access policy restrictions are different. Specifically, for the Proxy interface, the Cloud Service must deny access if the requested job is not one that that Cloud Service&nbsp; has provided to the identified Local Service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Are there other potential access restrictions as well for the Proxy version?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Should the Proxy interface version of this operation have a different name, so that defining the access and potential error response information, which is different for the proxy version, does not overly complicate the description of the operation?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We had planned to have the next Cloud conference call on Monday 10 March, at which time the above issues would be considered &nbsp;as well as review of the current draft . It was hoped that this would allow a Prototype version of the draft to be generated. However, Michael will not be able to join this call, and he has been the major commenter&nbsp; on this draft. Although the conference call would be constructive if others would like to comment on the draft, but &nbsp;could not be a conclusive review without Michael. &nbsp;Therefore, should cancel the March 10 conference call? Regardless, I &nbsp;would very much appreciate mail list discussion of the draft and the above issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>