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    Bill,<br>
    <br>
    I've made a few (OK, a bunch) of suggestions. Use any of them you
    think are worthwhile. I added them to Joe's suggestions.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="76">-- 
Regards,
Brian Smithson
PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA
Security Research, Planning
Advanced Customer Technologies
Ricoh Americas Corporation
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a>
(408)346-4435</pre>
    <br>
    <br>
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    On 2/9/2011 1:47 PM, Murdock, Joe wrote:
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            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">I&#8217;ve made a few suggested update inline:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Joe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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                  &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org">ids-bounces@pwg.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org">mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>William Wagner<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:11 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'Michael Sweet'<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mfd@pwg.org">mfd@pwg.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ids@pwg.org">ids@pwg.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wims@pwg.org">wims@pwg.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [IDS] RE: [WIMS] MPSA Security Article<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Many thanks to Michael for his comments&#8230;they have
            been reflected in the text. &nbsp;Any more comments, suggestions
            additions or deletions?&nbsp; I would like to send this to Jim by
            tomorrow afternoon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"> Michael
                Sweet [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">mailto:msweet@apple.com</a>] <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:46 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> William Wagner<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wims@pwg.org">wims@pwg.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ids@pwg.org">ids@pwg.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mfd@pwg.org">mfd@pwg.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WIMS] MPSA Security Article<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:56 AM, William
              Wagner wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    font-family:
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                    rgb(31, 73, 125);">An updated version reflecting
                    comments made during the February face-to-face is
                    posted at :</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family:
                    &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/MPSA/Access_article_110205.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/MPSA/Access_article_110205.pdf</a><span
                      class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>and</span><span
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                    a set of survey questions.</span><span
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                    rgb(31, 73, 125);">Comments and corrections are
                    solicited. It is our objective to finalize this
                    information and send it to MPSA by &nbsp;10 February so
                    that it can be posted next weekend.</span><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Comments (on the PDF version):<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Page 3: At the end of the first paragraph
            under "Log Generation and Availability", you have "... is
            often required for security purposes, (audit log), sometimes
            with alerts ..." - I don't think you meant to put commas
            around the parenthetical "audit log"...<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Page 3: Paragraph starting with "Although
            the most secure approach" doesn't finish the thought. I
            think combining the first two sentences makes it clearer,
            e.g.:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Although the most secure approach is
              for devices to continually send out log information to an
              external repository as events occur, this is&nbsp;often&nbsp;neither
              practical nor justifiable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Page 7: Question 6 is multiple choice,
            right?<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Page 8: Question 7 could also be multiple
            choice for a, b, or c... My recommendation would be to break
            this into two questions: "If you are implementing logging,
            where is it kept?" and "How to you implement billing?" with
            "Logs", "Simple copy count", "other", and "not implementing
            billing".<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Otherwise shaping up very nicely - thanks
            for working on this, Bill!<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
                    &quot;Monaco&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Michael
                    Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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