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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>We need to fully specify the Cancel-Jobs operation, as
this is a new operation and not an extension of an existing operation (just
copy the Cancel-Job description from RFC2911 and tweak...)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ll do the same for the other new
operation: Resubmit-Jobs as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet
[mailto:msweet@apple.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 08, 2009
11:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">tom.hastings@alum.mit.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ipp@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IPP] Updated (new)
Cancel-Jobs, enhanced Get-Jobs and Purge-Jobs uploaded - some issues needing
resolution Thursday</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We need to fully specify the Cancel-Jobs operation, as this is a new
operation and not an extension of an existing operation (just copy the
Cancel-Job description from RFC2911 and tweak...)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, "1.4 The job-ids (boolean) Printer Description
attribute" should be "1.4 The job-ids-supported (boolean) ...".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Anyways, comments inline...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Tom Hastings wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’ve uploaded v8 of the new Cancel-Jobs, enhanced Get-Jobs
and Purge-Jobs uploaded at:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Cancel-Jobs-Get-Jobs-Purge-Jobs-enhancements-v8-20091007.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Cancel-Jobs-Get-Jobs-Purge-Jobs-enhancements-v8-20091007.doc</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Cancel-Jobs-Get-Jobs-Purge-Jobs-enhancements-v8-20091007.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Cancel-Jobs-Get-Jobs-Purge-Jobs-enhancements-v8-20091007.pdf</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I’d like to get resolutions Thursday, as I finish the rest
of Set 2 on Thursday.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ISSUES for the new Cancel-Jobs operation are:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoCommentText style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in'><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-position:initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Xerox Office";background:red'>ISSUE</span></span><span style='background-image:
initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;
-webkit-background-origin: initial;background-position:initial initial'></font><font
size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";
background:yellow'>: OK that the Printer MUST ignore “jobs-ids” if “my-jobs” =
‘true’ is supplied, rather than reject the request and return the
‘client-error-bad-request” status?</span></span></font><font size=2
face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That sounds too ambiguous to me. We should return
client-error-bad-request if a client specifies both my-jobs and job-ids.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoCommentText style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in'><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";background:red'>ISSUE</span></span><span
style='background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-position:initial initial'></font><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";background:yellow'>: OK that
the Printer MUST reject a request that does NOT specify a list of jobs and does
NOT specify “my-jobs” = ‘true’? What if the requesting user is the
operator? Should this case cancel all jobs?<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><font
size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoCommentText style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in'><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-position:initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Xerox Office";background:yellow'>In other words, is it OK that the Cancel-Jobs
operation does not allow the Operator to cancel all jobs?</span></span></font><font
size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>No, Cancel-Jobs should cancel all jobs if my-jobs and job-ids are not
specified, just as Purge-Jobs does. The limitation is that only an
operator/administrator can cancel other users' jobs, so an ordinary user
sending a "Cancel-Jobs" operation without "my-jobs" or
"job-ids" will only work if there are only jobs owned by that user.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in'><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";background:red'>ISSUE</span></span><span
style='background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-position:initial initial'></font><font size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";background:yellow'>: OK that
the Printer cancels the ones owned, but not the ones not owned? Then the
Printer can repeatedly perform Cancel-Job operations on each job in the list,
rather than checking the entire list before canceling any</span></span><u1:p></u1:p></font><font
size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We want Cancel-Jobs to be atomic, so if any of the jobs (implicitly or
explicitly via job-ids) are not owned by the user and the user is not an
operator or administrator, the printer should return
client-error-not-authorized, just like Cancel-Job does today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ISSUES for the Get-Jobs enhancement:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial;
background-position:initial initial'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Xerox Office";background:red'>ISSUE</span></span><span style='background-image:
initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;
-webkit-background-origin: initial;background-position:initial initial'></font><font
size=2 face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office";
background:yellow'>: OK that the Printer MUST ignore “jobs-ids” if “my-jobs” =
‘true’ is supplied, rather than reject the request and return the
‘client-error-bad-request” status?</span></span></font><font size=2
face="Xerox Office"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Xerox Office"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As for Cancel-Jobs, I think we need to return client-error-bad-request
because of the ambiguity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Monaco><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:Monaco;color:black'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System
Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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