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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Since email with attachments is blocked by
the IPP reflector (even small ones), the attachment that I refer to below is
also posted at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.doc</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This is RESEND 2 or 2 for
tomorrow’s IPP WG telecon, July 19.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tom Hastings
[mailto:tom.hastings@verizon.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 18, 2010 17:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ipp@pwg.org; 'Michael R
Sweet'; '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Paul Tykodi</st1:PersonName>'; 'Ira
McDonald'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Tom Hastings'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Toward resolving Apple's
IPP WG Last Call JPS2 comments 4 thru 7 - for Mon, Jul 19, IPP WG telecon</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>For the IPP WG telecon,
tomorrow, Monday, July 19, here is 2 or 2 input for the agenda topic:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Since the font,
highlighting, and indentation will be smashed when this mail message is turned
to plain text, I’ve attached a 63 KB .pdf which is much more readable,
complete with line numbers to make it easier to discuss at the telecon.
I’ve also down loaded v30 of JPS2 .doc and .pdf (without hot
links). If Pete Zehler can update the .pdf that would be good, but he may
be on vacation. So the following 6 documents are in the wd sub-folder for
the IPP WG telecon tomorrow, Monday, July 19:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v30-20100718.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v30-20100718.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v30-20100718.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v30-20100718.doc</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>and the following two
documents that attempt to resolve Apple’s IPP WG Last Call comments (same
as I attached to this and the previous email):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.doc</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>and:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JSP2-comment-on-units-for-font-size-requested.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JSP2-comment-on-units-for-font-size-requested.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JSP2-comment-on-units-for-font-size-requested.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Toward-resolving-Apples-JSP2-comment-on-units-for-font-size-requested.doc</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>(Yes, the S and P are
switched in this last file name by mistake).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>For the IPP WG telecon,
tomorrow, Monday, July 19, here is 2 or 2 input for the agenda topic:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> (5) Status of IPP WG Last Call on IPP JPS2 (Tom)
- ends Monday 12 July<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v28-20100606-cl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ean.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> (ended Monday 12 July 2010)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> (6) Next Steps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - IPP WG - Monday 26 July<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> - IPP JPS2 into PWG Last Call?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>File:
Toward-resolving-Apples-JPS2-comments-4-thru-7.doc<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b>
ipp-bounces@pwg.org on behalf of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Michael Sweet</st1:PersonName>
[msweet@apple.com]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 21, 2010 12:58<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ipp@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [IPP] Apple has reviewed
the JPS2 specification and has comments<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Attachments:</span></b> ATT02705.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Comments:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. The document date is wrong in the headers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>TH> Updated to today's date.<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. The "font-size-requested" attribute uses points as the
units, however it should probably use a higher-precision unit (at least
decipoints, or 1/720th of an inch) to avoid issues with getting common
fixed-width font spacing right (e.g. 17 characters per inch with a standard
Courier font would need a point size of 5.293...) [And apologies for the late
notice on this - I haven't read through the older material in a while...]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>TH> See separate email thread and
attached .pdf more readable version for this issue and possible alternatives
for resolution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. Question: do we need the PWG process reference at the beginning of
section 3? Do we need to explain why we organize our standards documents this
way?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>TH> Need IPP WG input here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>4. On line 372 of the -rev document you say "these features are
useful in the "light production printing" environments, but we don't
define what "light production printing" is, just "production
printing".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>TH> Just remove the clause entirely, OK?<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>5. Line 427 - I think Close-Job is Owner + Operator, per RFC 2911's
description of Send-Document and the Close-Job references in JPS2:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> Access Rights: The authenticated user (see
section 8.3) performing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> this operation must either be the job owner (as
determined in the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> Create-Job operation) or an operator or
administrator of the Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> object (see Sections 1 and 8.5).
Otherwise, the IPP object MUST<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> reject the operation and return:
'client-error-forbidden', 'client-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> error-not-authenticated', or
'client-error-not-authorized' as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Menlo><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Menlo'> appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>TH> Added:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-style:italic'>Access Rights:</span></font></i> The authenticated user (see
[RFC2911] section 8.3) performing this operation must either be the job owner
(as determined in the Create-Job operation) or an operator or administrator of
the Printer object (see [RFC2911] Sections 1 and 8.5). Otherwise, the IPP
object MUST reject the operation and return: 'client-error-forbidden',
'client-error-not-authenticated', or 'client-error-not-authorized' as
appropriate. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>6. Line 567-568: The definition says up to 255 characters for
job-password and job-password-supported, but here we say 127 octets.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>TH> Fixed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>7. a: Section 10.5 (job-spooling-supported) - shouldn't this be a
1setOf? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>b: Also, lines 580-581 basically says that the values are
implementation-dependent regardless of whether the attribute is supported or
not. :) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>c: Based on the current description I think we need to specify when the
value is 1setOf and when it is not (i.e. a Get-Printer-Attributes request with
a document-format would return the value for that format, otherwise you'd get
the value for the default format or a 1setOf if the answer can't be made definitively
without a format...) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>d: This will also affect the registration info on line 1073.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>TH> Apple's 4 suggestions (which I've labeled a thru d) are that a
Printer implementation MAY vary the spooling strategy based on the document
format. For example, a document format that might have backward
references would require the Printer to spool, while one that cannot, the
Printer might stream. Therefore, even though there is no way for the
client to dictate to the Printer which strategy to use, since there isn't a Job
Template attribute to recommend/require the spooling strategy (unless we want
to add one), the Printer could support more than one value of
"job-spooling-supported", depending on the document format(s) of the
document(s) in the submitted job.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I've taken a stab at clarifying that "job-spooling-supported"
can depend on the document format supplied in the job, as suggested by Apple
comment #7:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<h2 style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:0in;mso-list:none'><a
name="_Ref17791923"></a><a name="_Toc263624860"></a><b><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>10.5 </span></font></b><a
style='mso-comment-reference:th_2;mso-comment-date:20100718T1659'>job-spooling-supported
(</a><a style='mso-comment-reference:th_1;mso-comment-date:20100718T1659'><span
style='mso-comment-continuation:2'><u><font color=red><span style='color:red'>1setOf</span></font></u></span></a><span
style='mso-comment-continuation:2'><span class=MsoCommentReference><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_1"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_1','_com_1')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_1')" href="#_msocom_1" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_1">[th1]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span></span><span
style='mso-comment-continuation:2'><span class=MsoCommentReference><u><font
size=1 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red;font-weight:normal'> </span></font></u></span> type2 keyword)</span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_2"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_2','_com_2')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_2')" href="#_msocom_2" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_2">[th2]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:normal'> </span></font></span><o:p></o:p></h2>
<p class=bodytexta style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>This attribute indicates whether or not jobs are
spooled before the document data is interpreted (RIPped). In other words,
this attribute indicates when jobs are processed by the Printer with respect to
when the Printer receives and returns responses to Job Creation requests (i.e.,
Print-Job, Print-URI), receives and returns responses to Document Creation
requests (i.e., Send-Document and Send-Uri requests) and "receives"
or "fetches" such document data.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:.5in;
margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><a style='mso-comment-reference:th_3;
mso-comment-date:20100718T1721'><u><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:red'>The value of this attribute returned in a
Get-Printer-Attributes response MAY depend on the "document-format" </span></font></u></a><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_3"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_3','_com_3')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_3')" href="#_msocom_3" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_3">[th3]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><u><font size=1 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></u></span><u><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>attribute supplied in the
Get-Printer-Attributes request <a style='mso-comment-reference:th_4;mso-comment-date:
20100718T1721'>(see [RFC2911] Section 3.2.5.1 and 6.2).</a></span></font></u><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_4"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_4','_com_4')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_4')" href="#_msocom_4" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_4">[th4]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><u><font size=1 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></u></span><u><font
color=red><span style='color:red'><o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=bodytextb style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=MsoCommentReference><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
style='mso-comment-reference:th_5;mso-comment-date:20100718T1659'></a><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_5"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_5','_com_5')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_5')" href="#_msocom_5" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_5">[th5]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></span><s><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>If the Printer supports this attribute, the value supported
depend on implementation. </span></font></s>If the Printer does not
support this attribute, <u><font color=red><span style='color:red'>then</span></font></u>
the <u><font color=red><span style='color:red'>spooling</span></font></u>
behavior is implementation dependent.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=bodytextb style='margin-left:.5in'><a style='mso-comment-reference:
th_6;mso-comment-date:20100718T1659'><s><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>The Get-Printer-Supported-Values operation
(see description in [RFC3380]) returns a '1setOf type2 keyword' so that all
possible values that the implementation is capable of supporting are indicated.</span></font></s></a><span
class=MsoCommentReference><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><![if !supportAnnotations]><a
class=msocomanchor id="_anchor_6"
onmouseover="msoCommentShow('_anchor_6','_com_6')"
onmouseout="msoCommentHide('_com_6')" href="#_msocom_6" language=JavaScript
name="_msoanchor_6">[th6]</a><![endif]> </span></font></span><span
class=MsoCommentReference><s><font size=1 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font></s></span><s><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></s></p>
<p class=bodytextb style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>The standard keyword values are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
style='margin-left:1.0in;border-collapse:collapse'>
<tr>
<td width=90 valign=top style='width:67.5pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tablecolhead><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Keyword<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
</td>
<td width=11 valign=top style='width:8.1pt;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tablecolhead><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
</td>
<td width=384 valign=top style='width:4.0in;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tablecolhead><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Description<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width=90 valign=top style='width:67.5pt;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>'spool'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td width=11 valign=top style='width:8.1pt;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td width=384 valign=top style='width:4.0in;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>The
Printer starts processing a job until the Printer has (1) accepted and responded
to the Job Creation request and all Document Creation requests (for a
multi-document job) and (2) has "received" or "fetched"
all document data for the job, i.e., spool rather than stream.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width=90 valign=top style='width:67.5pt;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>'stream'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td width=11 valign=top style='width:8.1pt;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</td>
<td width=384 valign=top style='width:4.0in;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>The
Printer starts processing a job (1) before the Printer has accepted all
Document Creation requests and (2) before the Printer has
"received" or "fetched" all document data, i.e., stream
rather than spool<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>'automatic'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<td width=384 valign=top style='width:4.0in;padding:0in 1.8pt 0in 1.8pt'>
<p class=tabletext><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>The Printer
chooses whether to process a job before or after the Printer has accepted all
Document Creation requests and has "received" or
"fetched" all document data, i.e., the Printer MAY spool and/or
stream depending on policy and other factors, such as the size of the job<u><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>, <a style='mso-comment-reference:th_7;
mso-comment-date:20100718T1659'>and the document format</a></span></font></u></span></font><span
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class=MsoCommentReference><u><font size=1 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></u></span>,
including a combination of spooling and streaming.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>TH> However, I don't think we need to get into the details about
Get-Printer-Attributes vs. Get-Printer-Attributes-Supported, since it is now clear
that multiple values MAY be returned in either or both operations, depending on
implementation. [RFC2911] Section 3.2.5.1 Get-Printer-Attributes goes
into gory detail about attributes whose values are affected by
"document-format" supplied in the Get-Printer-Attributes requests:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=item><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"document-format"
(mimeMediaType):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The client OPTIONALLY supplies this attribute.
The Printer object MUST support this attribute. <span style='layout-grid-mode:
line'>This attribute is useful for a Printer object to determine the set of
supported attribute values that relate to the requested document format.</span>
<span style='layout-grid-mode:line'>The Printer object MUST return the
attributes and values that it uses to validate a job on a create or
Validate-Job operation in which this document format is supplied. </span>The
Printer object SHOULD return only (1) those attributes that are supported for
the specified format and (2) the attribute values that are supported for the
specified document format. By specifying the document format, the client
can get the Printer object to eliminate the attributes and values that are not
supported for a specific document format. For example, a Printer object
might have multiple interpreters to support both 'application/postscript' (for
PostScript) and 'text/plain' (for text) documents. However, for only one
of those interpreters might the Printer object be able to support
"number-up" with values of '1', '2', and '4'. For the other
interpreter it might be able to only support "number-up" with a value
of '1'. Thus a client can use the Get-Printer-Attributes operation to obtain
the attributes and values that will be used to accept/reject a create job
operation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the Printer object does not distinguish between
different sets of supported values for each different document format when
validating jobs in the create and Validate-Job operations, it <span
style='layout-grid-mode:line'>MUST</span> NOT distinguish between different
document formats in the Get-Printer-Attributes operation. If the Printer object
does distinguish between different sets of supported values for each different
document format specified by the client, this specialization applies only to
the following Printer object attributes: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- Printer
attributes that are Job Template attributes ("xxx-default"
"xxx-supported", and "xxx-ready" in the Table in Section
4.2),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"pdl-override-supported",<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>- "compression-supported",<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"job-k-octets-supported",<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"job-impressions-supported,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"job-media-sheets-supported"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"printer-driver-installer",<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"color-supported", and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-
"reference-uri-schemes-supported"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The values of all other Printer object attributes (including
"document-format-supported") remain invariant with respect to the
client supplied document format (except for new Printer description attribute
as registered according to section 6.3).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the client omits this "document-format"
operation attribute, the Printer object <span style='layout-grid-mode:line'>MUST</span>
respond as if the attribute had been supplied with the value of the Printer
object's "document-format-default" attribute. It is RECOMMENDED
that the client always supply a value for "document-format", since
the Printer object's "document-format-default" may be
'application/octet-stream', in which case the returned attributes and values
are for the union of the document formats that the Printer can automatically
sense. For more details, see the description of the 'mimeMediaType'
attribute syntax in section 4.1.9.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=itemdescription><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the client supplies a value for the
"document-format" Operation attribute that is not supported by the
Printer, i.e., is not among the values of the Printer object's
"document-format-supported" attribute, the Printer object <span
style='layout-grid-mode:line'>MUST</span> reject the operation and return the
'client-error-document-format-not-supported' status code.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Monaco><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Monaco'>________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=3 face=Monaco><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'>Michael Sweet</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
face=Monaco><span style='font-family:Monaco'>, Senior Printing System Engineer,
PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Monaco><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Monaco'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='background:red'>ISSUE</span><span style='background:yellow'>: OK to add
"1setOf" to "job-spooling-supported" as suggested by
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style='background:red'>ISSUE</span><span style='background:yellow'>: Comment
made during the June 21 telecon:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
background:yellow'>Add: "job-spooling-configured" (type2 keyword).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
background:yellow'>Also with the Apple's Comment #7 suggestion that the
spooling strategy could depend on the document-format in the submitted job,
configuring for a single strategy wouldn't work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
background:yellow'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoCommentText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='background:red'>ISSUE</span><span style='background:yellow'>: OK to add
that the spooling used MAY depend on the document format as</span> <span
style='background:yellow'>suggested by Apple's Comment #7 and allowed by [RFC2911]
Section 3.2.5.1 as long as explicitly called out in the definition as indicated
in [RFC2911] Section 6.2?</span></p>
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style='background:red'>ISSUE</span><span style='background:yellow'>: OK to add
that the spooling used MAY depend on the document format as</span> <span
style='background:yellow'>suggested by Apple's Comment #7c, but refer to RFC
2911 Section 3.2.5.1 for the details about what is returned in
Get-Printer-Attributes response depending on whether or not the client supplies
"document-format: in the request?</span></p>
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