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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I have reviewed the new proposed standard and have two concerns with
respect to the "IPP Subset of CUPS Raster"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>It
was my understand that a IEEE ISTO PWG Standard must not be the standardization
of product or a specific company's implementation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:
l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Thus, there is a great need for a
PWG IPP Image format or PWG IPP Raster format; however, I believe that
specifying it as a subset of the specific open-source or vendor product is not
in line with PWG standards practices. This is not to say that is could not
have a normative or informative reference to a specific open-source or vendor
product but it should stand on its own with ties to a specific open-source or
vendor product. Also, it should not use attribute names or variables that are
identified with a specific open-source or vendor product.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:
l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>I am aware of other entities that
wish to use an established format (i.e. CUPS Raster 2); but if PWG is going to
standardize it, it should be PWG entity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>The
specific open-source or vendor product that is being discussed is CUPS. So, the
other concern with a standard that directly references CUPS is that CUPS is
licensed by/under Apple and GPL. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:
l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>I have not heard or know that
Apple has provided a Letter of Assurance on the use by others for the use a
subset of CUPS definition. While, I believe that Apple would provide LOA upon
request.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:
l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>On the other, if any or part of
the content PWG is proposing to use from CUPS was/is part of CUPS that was/is
under GPL before Apple’s ownership; then there is the question if GPL
license applies. Major print vendors may be at risk of either having to release
their source code that is associated with CUPS content or even being sued by
GPL proponents. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sweet<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:10 PM<br>
To: ipp@pwg.org<br>
Cc: cloud@pwg.org<br>
Subject: [IPP] New draft of IPP Subset of CUPS Raster (IPP Raster)specification
posted</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I have posted a new version of the IPP Raster specification at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110126.docx<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110126.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110126-rev.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>This version incorporates all of the feedback from the IPP telecon
including the rename from PWG to IPP...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
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