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Hi,<br><br>Thanks Mike!<br><br>RFC 3382 was simply one of the many IPP RFCs delayed in IETF process.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Michael R Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Pete,</div><div><br></div><div>I'll post an errata for 3382.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:48 AM, "Zehler, Peter" <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mike,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I know it’s confusing; it confused some people here. One thing, other than the inconsistent differences, that contributed to their confusion was that RFC3382 was publish in September of 2002 and PWG5100.3 was published in February of 2001. Their initial assumption was that newer spec should be correct. They did not read the fine print in section 5 that indicates the definitions are informative. Furthermore there is no reference, normative or informative, that points to the official definition.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’d like to see the 6 mistakes in rfc3382 corrected. It might also be a good idea to include at least an informative reference to PWG5100.3.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Pete<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
<br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Email: <a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Michael Sweet [mailto:<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] media-size unit problem in rfc3382<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
Pete,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The media-col definition in 3382 was informative and never registered.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">(and yes this is confusing)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The units for media-size in rfc3382 are incorrect. The examples in rfc3382 are inconsistent. It is my understanding that current implementations from multiple vendors use hundredth of a millimeter.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Rfc3382:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.1 4a – example is in mm<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">5.1.2.1 – defines units as inches<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">5.1.2.2 - defines units as inches<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">7.2 – example in inches<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Appendix A – example in inches<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Appendix B – example in inches<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">PWG5100.3:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.13.8.1 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.13.8.1 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.13.8.3.1 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">3.13.8.3.2 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">PWG5105.1:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">7.1 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter (references 5100.3)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">PWG5108.1:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">4.3.1 – does not call out unit but<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">references 5100.3</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">5.2.1 - defines units as<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">hundredths of a millimeter (references 5100.3)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Email:<span> </span><a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Voice: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-8755" value="+15852658755" target="_blank">(585) 265-8755</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">FAX: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-7441" value="+15852657441" target="_blank">(585) 265-7441</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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