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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120330.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120330.docx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is the document we were discussing. Other discussion notes are in the meeting minutes and BOF presentations at <a href="http://www.pwg.org/cloud/index.html">http://www.pwg.org/cloud/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry Upthegrove<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nishino</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic","sans-serif"'>$B!$(B</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tetsuya(</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS PGothic","sans-serif"'>$B@>LnE0Li(B</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>) [mailto:tetsuya.nishino@dc.kyocera.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 02, 2012 9:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> larryupthegrove; 'Petrie, Glen'; ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [IPP] A different function model for discuss<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>Can someone send me a link so that I can understand the diagram with the print manager, the cloud printer, printers and so on?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'>Tetsu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>=========================================================<br>KYOCERA Document Solutions Inc.<br>R&D Department 63, Software 1 R&D Division, Corporate Software R&D Division</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Tetsuya Nishino</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>2-14-9, Tamagawadai, Setagaya-ward, Tokyo, 158-8610 Japan<br><a href="Tel:+81-03-3708-3846">Tel:+81-03-3708-3846</a> / Fax:+81-03-3708-0423<br>(<a href="mailto:ntetsuya.nishino@dc.kyocera.com">tetsuya.nishino@dc.kyocera.com</a>)<br><a href="http://www.kyoceradocumentsolutions.com">http://www.kyoceradocumentsolutions.com</a><br>=========================================================<br>New Document Solutions for your Business.<br>"KYOCERA Document Solutions Inc." reborn on April 1.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>"KYOCERA MITA Corporation" is now called " KYOCERA Document Solutions Inc."<br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]">[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>larryupthegrove<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Petrie, Glen'; <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [IPP] A different function model for discuss</span><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The reason I see for having a $B!H(BPrint Manager$B!I(B is for the purpose of having a standard for connecting a printer (logical or physical) to the cloud provider.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So the simplest implementation would reflect just a user connecting to the cloud provider. The cloud provider $B!H(Bowns$B!I(B the printers, so there isn$B!G(Bt any outgoing connection to model.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Examples would be Staples, Mimeo.com, Vistaprint.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Second implementation would be devices not owned by the cloud provider. Current implementations include mail protocols, FTP, IPP, route via Dropbox, Box, Google cloud print, etc. So a standard should address a common solution that works for a variety of implementations. So having a cloud print manager at , or as part of, each device makes sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The third implementation would be a more robust print manager, which would control multiple devices off of a single connection. My example would be IBM InfoPrint manager or similar output manager.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I see two parts to this, one between the user and the cloud provider, and one between the cloud provider and some common point that works for multiple implementations. Since in a large number of cases the print data has to transverse into a private network, that common point should be capable of being hosted within a private network.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just my thoughts$B!D(B<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]">[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Petrie, Glen<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 02, 2012 3:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [IPP] A different function model for discuss<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>After today$B!G(Bs meeting, I thought I would try to draw a slightly different representation of the functional model diagram than what is in the current model document. In the current model it is very unclear what and where the $B!H(BCloud Print Manager$B!I(B is (is in its own cloud or is it proxy (so not really a cloud service) or in the printer (so not really a cloud service)). Why does the (Print) Client $B!H(Bregister$B!I(B with the Cloud Provider instead of just using the Cloud Print Provider. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In the functional model attached, I propose the more cloud centric model which places service, security and other functionality in the Cloud. The model is not specifically concerned with interfaces such as using IPP; it is meant to be more a very top level view. In the attached model the Client uses or accesses the Cloud Provider for printing services. The User interacts with the Cloud Print Provider to select a Print Service associated with the User. The Cloud Print Provider then sends Capability information (which likely has no secure information) to the Client. The Print Client creates Print Job Ticket (with a Print Content reference) which is sent to the Print Service (or Print Service Manager) for printing. The Print Service accepts (or rejects the Print Job). The Print Service prints the Print Job and sends status info to the Print Status Service. Federated printing also work quit well with this model. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Glen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><br />--
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