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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I’m struggling
with a number of statements, I agree the connection between the user and the
cloud is one part of the model, and the other part is the connection of the
cloud to a logical print something or other (within my system).
Since the model started as an imaging model, I believe the cloud to print
connection should also be usable for a scan to cloud, with different elements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>[gwp] The User connects to either the
Cloud Provider’s Print Client (a Cloud Print Client) or an independent
Print Client that connects to the Cloud Provider. The key is that connection
is the User to a Print Client. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>[gwp] Other imaging service would
following exactly the same model without loss of generality;
namely, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> User
<-----> Print Client </span></font><font
color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>ó</span></font><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> Print
Service <------>
Physical Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> User
<-----> Scan Client </span></font><font
color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>ó</span></font><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> Scan
Service <------>
Physical Scanner <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>User
<-----> Transform Client </span></font><font color=blue face=Wingdings><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>ó</span></font><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> Transform
Service <------> “Physical” Transforms<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Users register<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Service register<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Users </span></font><font color=blue
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>ó</span></font><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> services
are associated <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>As a user and
implementer I’m focusing on where the connection to the cloud originates,
and where the connection from the cloud is terminates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>[gwp] As an user you are should
have the following concerns<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Assumption: The User is a member
(registered) with the Cloud Provider – i.e. has a User account. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Does
my (the User’s) Cloud Provider support (have APIs/interfaces) to
support an internal or external Print Client<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>How
do I (the User) “install” (register) my (the User) Physical
Printer with the Cloud Provider under my (the User) account<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Can/How
to set up default Print Settings<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Can/How
to allow others to use my Physical Printer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Complete actions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>I
(the User) have “installed” (registered) my Physical Printer in
my account with my Cloud Provider.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Usage:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Using
an internal/external Print Client, I (the User) can select an individual Physical
Printer from my of installed Physical Printers<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>I
(the User) can “create” a Print Job for my document using the
capabilities of the selected Physical Printer. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So
the User does not know about or care Print Service; the User only understands
the Physical Printer they want to use.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The User
certainly does not know how printing is “handled” within the Cloud
and beyond. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The
User “just wants to print”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>[gwp] As an implementer you are
should have the following concerns<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>First of all: What are you the
implementer of?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo9'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>An
application developer invoking a print action from a print menu selection<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo9'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The
application will actually invoke a Print Client <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo9'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>An
internal/external Print Client developer capturing Print Intent and creating
a Print Job.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo9'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>A
printer vendor developer wanting to provide Cloud Print support for my
printers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo9'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>A
Cloud Provider developer wanting to support Printing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>In all the implementer cases above you
want the APIs for interfacing with the Print Service associated with a Physical
Printer. And you don’t know, want to know or care “where”
the Print Service is; you only want to know how to access it and that it uses a
common (defined, standardized) set of API for printing. You don’t
know, want to know or care how the Print Service communicates with the Physical
Printer; only that the Print Service can communication with the Physical
Printer. The Print Service will support the implementer (ultimately the
User) by providing capability information, Print Job submission, reporting Printing
Status, State & Error information and there is likely some security
issues. Note that Print Service does not know, want to know or care
if specific User has access to the Physical Printer or not; that is job of the
Cloud Provider to support (secure) association. If a print vendor
provides a fully implement Cloud; then that Cloud is classified as a Cloud
Provider. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So,
does the implementer know if there is fan-out or fan-in; that there is “Print
Manager”? No.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Does
implementer know about common or individual queues? No, the Print Service API
provides Print Jobs info (queue info) for the specific Physical Printer.
(Yes, there may be a system rollup; but that is an admin operation.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>-------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>In summary: Users see Print Clients<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> Implementers
see Print Services <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So Print Client </span></font><font
color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>ó</span></font><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> Print
Services !!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Also, how does all of this work with
federation between Clouds?!?!?! (If allowed) A Print Service of any Cloud
Provider could be “registered” with the Users’ Cloud
Provider. This is a complete transparent functionality (yes, there a
security issues) but the User set their Print Intent and the Print Client sends
the Print Job the User’s Cloud Provider who federates (forwards) the Print
Job to the other Cloud Provider and, so, forth. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>So where you have in
the last drawing – Vendor M and Vendor N, are those print services from
different print vendors or?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Yes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 06, 2012 10:35
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Michael Sweet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ipp@pwg.org; cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Cloud] RE: [IPP] Where
is the Cloud Print Manager in the PWG: Cloud Model<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Thanks for the update. I was
reviewing the diagram again and I had noted there was no actual print entity
“in the cloud”; that is, as an SAAS in cloud terminology; so adding
the Cloud Print Service at least provides a cloud print SAAS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Some more discussion ----------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I am still having a problem with the use
of a Cloud Print Manager (in the printer) concept (an the name) in the general
context of being a cloud citizen and with associating a User with an individual
Print Service (Printers). That is, it is not modeled from User’s,
use-case or Cloud Provider developers’ point of view. As currently
defined, the current Cloud Print Manager is an artifact of a particular
implementation (like DocuPrint; maybe even CUPS) for a fan out with a single
controller (Print Servcie?); from a reference model or architecture point of
view it should not matter if there is such an entity providing this
function. This means your simple diagram reduces to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>With
“”””””maybe”””””
the Printer = [ Cloud Print Manager <---> Printer(s) ] as seen from
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Actually, I see no reason to add the Print qualifier to the Provider;
that is,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>This model states that a Client, as a
proxy for the User, can access a Print Service, of the User’s Cloud
Provider, to print to a User’s register print device. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>This model can be used to represent
several different solutions or implementations:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The
“Cloud Provider” is Print Cloud (like HP’s or
Epson’s or)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Printer</span></font><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>A
good and bad model – requires other Cloud Solution to federate with
Print Cloud Provider. This would be a big development effort
for print vendors. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Cloud
Print Services are integrated into a Cloud Provider like Google Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Again,
good and bad. Good for print vendor in that the Cloud
Provider manages Print Service; bad for the same reason.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.75in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The
Cloud Print Service is a “mini-cloud” or a “plug-in
cloud” (but still in the Cloud) that is callable by a Cloud
Provider. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Client <--->
\
\ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
\ \<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> \ Cloud Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Where there is cloud around both Cloud Print and Cloud
Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1>
<ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo5'><font size=3
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Yes,
this looks like model in the current specification but with some slight
differences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>i.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The Cloud Print Services are in the
cloud; thus, they are cloud SAAS <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Yes, the
Print Service could be in the physical printer but virtually linked
(“registered”) in the Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>ii.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>A printer is associated with a single
Cloud Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>>From
the User’s and the Cloud Provider’s point-of-view, one Print
Service is associated with one Printer. The User and Cloud Provider
developers never know about fan-out, fin-in, fan-up, fan-down or any kind of
fan; they know there an associated Print Services for a specific Printer.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level5 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Internally,
an individual “Print Service” can support 2, 700,039 Printers; that
is something the print vendor does as part of their implementation
detail. It will not affect the API’s the Cloud Provider
developers uses to print to the printer. And has nothing to do with the
PWG Cloud Print specification.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>>From
the User’s and the Cloud Provider’s point-of-view, one Print
Service (associated with one Printer) has its own queue. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level5 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>If a print
vendor wants to have individual queues (the “bucket” of Print Jobs)
for each printer or have one giant queue (a big “bucket”) that
individual printers pull jobs from, this again, is a print vendor
implementation detail. And has nothing to do with the PWG Cloud
Print specification.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>iii.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>From the Cloud Provider’s
point-of-view, the above definitions makes all Cloud Print Service interfaces
look the same; that it,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>An
individual Printer is registered and has an associated a single Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>The Cloud
Provider only talks to the Printer’s Print Service for all APIs and
actions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Print Jobs
are submitted to the Print Service for the target printer (no matter how the
queue is implemented)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;mso-text-indent-alt:
-9.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3 color=blue
face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font>iv.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color=blue face=Cambria><span
style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Thus, the goal of the PWG Cloud activity
is to define the API’s and data for the Cloud Provider to/from a Cloud
Print Service<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I know
– use IPP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:2.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level5 lfo5'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I
don’t think IPP will be used by everyone. (Who is using it
now for Cloud?) What “will be used” is the PWG:PJT, which
does not require IPP to be useful. PWG:PJT make federation of the
Print Jobs very simple. In general PWG:PJT is a perfect candidate for
cloud print. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So the final model is something like<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud
Provider
|------- a Directory/Registry of Vendor Print Clouds<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Client <--->
\ \
< -------------------- register Printers (and its Print Service) to a User <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
\ \<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
\ Vendor M Print Cloud
\ Vendor N Print Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Print Service <---> Printer
Print Service <---> Printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet <a
href="mailto:%5bmailto:msweet@apple.com%5d">[mailto:msweet@apple.com]</a> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 06, 2012 9:00
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Peter Zehler; Ira Mcdonald; <a
href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>; <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IPP] Where is the
Cloud Print Manager in the PWG: Cloud Model</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>[Adding <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a> since this is
a cloud discussion]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In the original BOF-generated functional model, the Cloud Print Manager
is either located in the Printer or attached to the Printer (e.g. in the local
print server). The Cloud Print Manager manages communications between the
lower-level printer interface and the Cloud Print Provider.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Based on our last telecon, we have introduced a Cloud Print Service
into the model which is the service in/under the Cloud Print Provider (which
acts as a System Control Service in the Semantic Model sense) that manages the
jobs/queue in the cloud for the Cloud Print Manager. The rough ASCII art
diagram in my mind looks like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
Cloud Print Provider<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Client <---> Cloud Print Service
<---> Cloud Print Manager <---> Printer(s)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thus, Clients and Cloud Print Managers talk directly to the Cloud Print
Provider and corresponding Cloud Print Service, but never directly to each
other, and only the Cloud Print Manager actually talks directly with the
Printer(s) (physical or logical) it is registering/sharing with the Cloud Print
Provider/Service.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>There can potentially be multiple logical or physical printers behind
the Cloud Print Manager (think traditional fan-out configurations and
reprographic services) and those printers *may* be addressable using the IPP/SM
output device attributes/elements, but there is only a single Cloud Print
Service per Cloud Print Manager and to the Client it will appear to be a single
"queue" with one or more output devices associated with it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Apr 6, 2012, at 8:34 AM, "Petrie, Glen" <<a
href="mailto:glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com">glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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the Cloud Print Manager in the cloud model diagram “is not in the
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